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June 2, 2009 at 5:53 am
So then that goes the same for you dane.
June 2, 2009 at 5:54 am
she should stick to writing about the tuf show that she watched the night thats about the extent of her mma knowledge it seems.
June 2, 2009 at 6:11 am
Burn!! Nice one roy. As tbs would say in a George W. Bush tone VERY FUNNY.
June 2, 2009 at 6:18 am
Dane Drebin…the greatest fighters of all time are a bunch who made this sport what it is today..Gracie, Shamrock, Severn, Hughes, Horn, Coleman, Couture…these men can be considered some of the greatest fighters in MMA history.
Again i am not saying Fedor isnt the best, he is the best right now… And Steve shut the fuck up a listen…i dont hate Fedor at all for the hundreth time…he doesnt have the best record in MMA and thats my point….does he have one of the best records no shit…but the BEST EVER FUCK NOW so maybe that will clarify for you…FEdor does not have te best record ever to be seen in the history of MMA as steve put it and others.
While his record is great its not the best ever and that is my point. Steve i thought we were talking professional Fights…all of Horm and Severn fights have been professional Wins against MMA professionals no ametuers are in those wins. Bad analogy…Face it man Fedor has a great Record but it is not the greatest and Fedor is the best right now but he is not the greatest ever….facts remain to be seen if that can be another addition to his career…and until then its only speculation.
June 2, 2009 at 6:24 am
Here's some realism:
Fedor has one 12 of 15 Sambo tournaments, and placed 3rd or higher in the other 3.
He has won 3 mma tournaments with Pride, Rings king of king, and Ring world class
He was undisputed Pride Heavyweight champ, now Wamma Champ.
His record is 31-1-1 with his only loss coming from a cut in which the doctor would not allow him to continue.
He has beaten 5 former UFC champs…about to be sixth when he puts Barnett away (knock on wood)
-Mark Coleman, Kevin Randelman, Noguira (beat him twice), Arlovski, Sylvia
Other names he's beat:
-Hong man choi (had over 100 lbs on him)
-Kazuyuki Fujita (watch the hit he took from this huge man on youtube and tell me you don't love Fedor)
OUt of his 31 wins he has only been to decision 7 times…he has finished everyone else off in beautiful violent fashion. His last decision win was in August 2005 against Cro Crop.
You look at him and think chubby beer junkie, you look at him in the ring and you change your mind to graceful and tactical mma fighter. The only reason anyone would hate on Fedor is either a) you've never seen him fight…real life or ppv b) you've been living under an mma rock for the past 7 years of so.
I don't want to say he's the best ever…but I don't know how to finish that sentence.
June 2, 2009 at 6:31 am
Ah, you know what, based on that resume I could beat his ass hands down. Someone call his people and set up a fight night, cause I ain't scurred.
June 2, 2009 at 6:44 am
dude im done with the forum comment 104 pretty much sums up the brains on the other side of this debate.
lol Gracie, Shamrock, Severn, Hughes, Horn, Coleman, Couture
they were all pioneers but the greatest of all time?
its about as retarded as you tim
June 2, 2009 at 7:09 am
lol jeremy horn… just over 100 fights and never won a ufc championship… would think in a hundred fights he woulda got lucky haha
Mark coleman doesnt even have 30 fights but he's one of the greatest of all time right even tho fedor destroyed him twice
randy's 16-9 but still i would say he one of the greatest for sure because of his accomplishents
shamrock is nowhere near fedor ever in anything
June 2, 2009 at 7:33 am
Al 2.0…exactly i dont want to say he is the best ever…but you dont know how to end that sentance….
thats a perfect analogy because the guy is so good but you cant realisticly say he is the best ever when there is so much more out there and yet to come…surely he is one of the best.
Yes, Gracie, Shamrock, Severn, Hughes, Horn, Coleman, Couture can be considered some of the greatest fighters in the history of MMA… i didnt say the best ever now did I…unlik you and your Fedor talk…these men help pioneer the sport unlike Fedor has and have earned their way into the Hall of Fame of MMA and the recognition of being some of the greatest fighters…being considered the greatest fighter has different levels….record, ability, accomplishments, etc…you can not put a one person in the greatest ever catagory….you just cant…there is simply to many others to choose from on different levels.
To say i am dumb is an insult to yourself…i speak logic and if logic is dumb than your reality persecption is inconceivably ignorant.
I never said fedor isnt the best right now…i just said he is not the greatest to ever have stepped foot in MMA, his legacy is bound for glory but it will always be tarnished with the debate of him being the greatest becuase HOW CAN YOU PUT JUST ONE FIGHTER IN THAT CATAGORY WHEN THE HISTORY OF THIS SPORT IS SO VAST….YOU JUST CANT.
I will say this Fedor is on his way to becoming ONE OF THE GREATEST FIGHTERS IN THE HISTORY OF MMA BUT THE GREATEST EVER…HELL NO…
June 2, 2009 at 7:52 am
HOW CAN YOU PUT JUST ONE FIGHTER IN THAT CATAGORY WHEN THE HISTORY OF THIS SPORT IS SO VAST….YOU JUST CANT.
well they did and fedor won- if bas and everyother great fighter can concede that he is the best i can.
ONE OF THE GREATEST FIGHTERS IN THE HISTORY OF MMA BUT THE GREATEST EVER…HELL NO…
why a hell no, everyone involved with the sport seems to think he is.
ok i am done. its just to easy to debate about fedor because he always wins.
June 2, 2009 at 8:02 am
I am done your not getting my point…Fedor is one the greatest but he is not the greatest…that can be debated and no one is saying he isnt great.
Shit Muhammed Ali is considered one the greatest boxers of all time as in likewise was Rocky Marciano…along with Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield…get my drift…not one person can be considered the greatest ever to have lived but can be in A CLASS of greatest to have ever lived.
Roy…were on the same page man just a different paragraph…..and maybe even a different language but the outcome is the same Fedor is ONE of many to be considered the greatest of all time.
June 2, 2009 at 8:36 am
NICHOLE, I must be going crazy here. First you say that I must not know any other sports because of what I said about Dana White's behavior? Do you realize that the people you named were OWNERS of teams – Not presidents or commissioners of an entire sport.
Second, why do you keep implying that anyone is saying Fedor walks on water? Most of the comments on this board are just people saying that he is the best pound for pound (which most polls will show and agree with). When you say things like that, it makes you appear to be more of a Fedor hater instead of "a big fan".
And lastly, are you confusing me for someone else? Why did you say that I am "trying hard to discount everyone else" when I accused Tim of doing that to Fedor's accomplishments?
June 2, 2009 at 8:39 am
hey motherfuckers im the new kid in town and imma bouts to own this fucker
June 2, 2009 at 8:47 am
i read the news on this website but dont like to post but sumthing need ta b said
Tim your a cocksucker… fedor can not be called the greatest because nobody can… shut the fuck up you whinny lil bitch. you said some stupid shit and can't own up to it. fedorsm the best by far why dont you go tittyfuck cock chestnar and stop annoying the entire internet
and Nicole while you dont bitch as much as tim everytime i read what you write i picture a big dike wearing boxing gloves. people who think fedor is da best pound4pound are the majority. you are the minority ho get da fuck outta here. you think cus you can write you know anythign about fighting? you prolly dont even compete in any atheltics. you prolly jus some big broad eating bon bons.
June 2, 2009 at 9:47 am
Fedor is the best mma fighter of all time today. I realize that at some point in time someone will surpass his accomplishments. The term "best of all time" implies Fedor is the best we have seen yet and he certainly is the best we have seen yet. If this is not true then show me the man who can beat him today. Tell me the past fighter who in his prime could beat Fedor today. Until he is retired or defeated badly he is the best of all time today.
June 2, 2009 at 10:59 am
So let me get this straight. In 115 posts now only 1 other person agrees with Tim. And thats Nichole. 2 vs the rest. hmm lets see yeah Tim your speaking logic alright. Nobody agrees with you. Post 114 is one of my fav. posts I have ever seen. That shit is nicely said. Fedor is the best TIM. If the fighters say he is then what the fuck matters what your opinion is? You have never even seen a legend in the sport. You are fucking obsessed with Brock Lesnar lol. Just stop posting unless you want more people to call you stupid. Seriously your not going to win an arguement when nobody agrees with you at all.
June 2, 2009 at 11:55 am
wow, 69…you're a mature one! How's high school?
June 2, 2009 at 12:07 pm
im with you steve post 114 made me almost piss my pants lol. 69insidemytriangle doesnt fuck around lol.
June 2, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Does it matter what position a person holds in an organization? The behavior is the same. Dana is not the president of an entire sport – he's the president of ONE organization within a sport.
This is not the only forum where people discuss Fedor. Read other sites – people do imply that Fedor walks on water. And polls are just peoples' opinions. I can be a fan and be realistic at the same time.
Didn't confuse you – that's why I asked.
June 2, 2009 at 12:22 pm
High school? You're giving people too much credit, Nichole. Hahaha. More like grade school. Him and his back-woods cronies. But Fedor is the best in my opinion. I just don't need to go the childish route of insulting people like an adolescent. hahaha.
June 2, 2009 at 12:24 pm
if this debate was on sherdog there would be like 49 more people debating and 46 of them would be flaming the other three along with tim and nichole lol
June 2, 2009 at 1:40 pm
High school? your giving peeps too much credit nichole humhumhum har har har cobra clutch u lil queerfucker. da broke back mountain websites thata way gay boy.
Y dont you just stop beatin round da bush and ask nicoles dikey ass out already. swear to god every other post on dis website its you commin to nicoles rescue even if you dont agree wit her. your shits pathetic boy get off da internet and stop tryin to dry hump some fat chick u dont know through da key board.
June 2, 2009 at 1:50 pm
p.s. tim where u at cock sucker?
June 2, 2009 at 2:06 pm
i'm here huckleberry
June 2, 2009 at 5:08 pm
lmao at #122
its like having a slightly homosexual kimbo on the site lol. i like how he spells everything the way it sounds and spells NICHOLE's name wrong everytime.
i must admitt tho i have had my suspicions about cobra's obsession with nichole tho lol
other derek- huckleberry? lol u wierdo
June 2, 2009 at 5:16 pm
wow. Dane, do you really want to take sides with 69 just to be opposite of me? Really? He can't spell, can't form proper thoughts, and insults everyone to the point where I look forward to your postings. hahaha.
I think I agreed with Dane a few times, too, but no one is noticing that because it's fun to make fun of Nichole for some reason? She's a writer for the site who does excellent recaps on TUF (which are very detailed and take a ton of time), uses proper sentence structure and spelling, and thinks about what she posts.
I also recall saying Steve had excellent posts, too. But, hey, Dane, if you want to side with a moronic child who constantly spits vitriol, then that's up to you, brother. But you're judged by the company you keep.
June 2, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Oh, and speaking of "gay"…how gay is "69 inside my triangle?" He's saying he likes to 69 guys by holding them in his crotch. Hahaha. I guess it's true. The closet homosexuals deal with their self-hatred by projecting onto others who and what THEY are. hahahaha.
June 2, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Translation of 127 in 69's language for him to understand:
O, an speekin uv “gaye”…howe gaye iz “69 insyde ma triangul?” Heez sayin he likez 2 69 guyz bi howldin dem in hiz croch. Harheehaw. Eye guez itz troo. Da clowset homorseckshualz deel wit they self-h8red buy prujecktin on two uthers hoo an whut DEY r. hawhawhaw. snort. fart. fapfap. wank-to-gay-porn.
June 2, 2009 at 5:30 pm
hey man you called me douche bag a buncha times on this forum so ofcourse im gunna think its funny when someone slams you. i said i thought one of your posts were stupid and you went off callin me a buncha stuff. 69 is for sure a wierdo but he adds a little ghetto flavor to this website lol. he hasnt gone of on me yet and what i can actually read of his posts some of it is pretty funny.
June 2, 2009 at 5:32 pm
lol at #128 that was good
June 2, 2009 at 5:42 pm
i like holdin yo mama in my triangle cobra
June 2, 2009 at 5:46 pm
ghetto flavor? hahaha. I bet it's a 14 year old white kid from Utah (no offense, Dane) hahaha…Like these guys…
Not that I agree with the term or the derivative meaning of the site name, but the site's pictures are full of 69inmytriangle's.
And I didn't go off just because you disagreed, but because you insultingly disagreed. Big difference. But I won't hold grudges.
June 2, 2009 at 5:50 pm
hahah thats a way funny website thanks for sharing and i dont hold grudges either its just an mma website i couldnt care less
June 2, 2009 at 5:55 pm
it's funny. after all the comebacks, links, and slams and stuff I spit back at the child, his responses: "you're gay" and "your mama" hahahaha
June 3, 2009 at 12:34 am
69insidemytriangle…WOW some harsh words for someone who is probably a littl bitch of his own…Dude we dont talk like this on here this is a clean and respect site even if we do disagree with eachother its always within a respectable manner…calling people stupid is one thing but when the name calling is said thats just irrelevant and down right ridiculous, i cant see you and you cant see me so stop with the name calling to make yourself feel better and bigger or whatever it makes no sense, its not like your fucking in my face…I could care less what you call me here but again this is a respectable site and we usually do not talk that sort of dirty trash. Number 1 you dont know me or anyone else here so shut up with the smack talk…voice your opinions all you want…this site is made for it but keep the trash talking to yourself or find another site that does this crap…because we dont do that here.
June 3, 2009 at 12:43 am
Since no one can really read between the lines, i will agree with you all as i have been and speak your language….once and for all Fedor is the BEST as of NOW and he is in a class with the Greatest MMA fighters ever to have lived.
I am not nearly as obsessed with Lesnar as some are with Fedor…you guys really go a bit to far some times….at least with the fighters that i like i can honestly see their flaws and abilities…I have my fav fighters so does that make me obsessed with them? NO i am just a fan of MMA period win or lose and debate my opinions.
June 3, 2009 at 12:56 am
Sad what this thread turned into…. my unborn child has more maturity and sense than some people.
June 3, 2009 at 5:29 am
Do I really have to spell it out for you? Dana White holds the most pretigious position in MMA as the head of the most well known organization. Yet all he does is spout off against every fighter and evey other organization that isn't the UFC. He get's off on acting like an angry 20 year old. After a while, all that is doing is making your sport look stupid.
This isn't Vince McMahon and the WWE but people will continue to associate it that way because of Dana's example. I love MMA and want it to be looked at as a legitamate sport but it isn't going to happen until they get some professionals to run it (ie MLB, NFL, NBA, and NHL)
IF you can't show me an example of how I am “trying hard to discount everyone else” or at least admit that you were wrong then I will stop bugging you. It doesn't do me any good to debate with someone who is so irrational. I am sorry I struck a chord with you when I said that a fighter outside the UFC was the best pound for pound.
June 3, 2009 at 5:31 am
And yet miraculously, he made the sport what it is. Go figure.
I don't care who the fighter fights for….I follow all MMA, not just UFC.
June 3, 2009 at 5:50 am
Your blind emotion towards the UFC and baseless criticism of Fedor tells us otherwise.
As far as DW is concerned, I am not trying to take away what he has already done.. However, he is a big part of the reason for it's failures as well: it is a sport which isn't even legal in states like New York and Michigan. The head of the New York athletic commission specifically claimed that White was a lunatic and a major reason for this.
June 3, 2009 at 6:02 am
Looks like MMA will become legal in NYC….very soon…
June 3, 2009 at 6:05 am
Really? I haven't heard that yet but that would be huge.
June 3, 2009 at 6:06 am
Blind emotion? Where did I say anything about the UFC? I've only said that Dana is a businessman first and foremost. Regardless of his mouth, the UFC is the one organization actually being run well and is flourishing while others are dying. If he was half as bad as people thought he was, the Fertitta bros could and would fire him.
And please, tell me where I criticized Fedor – show me ONE negative thing I said about him. I am just realistic. As a matter of fact, if you go back and read the articles I've written, I've said nothing but GOOD things about him (particularly in my article about his fight with Sylvia). I'm just realistic. I have my favorite fighters, but I don't blindly drool all over them and pick fights about it.
June 3, 2009 at 6:18 am
Dave, I take it back, Fedor is over-rated, and you dont know anything about MMA, so suck it
June 3, 2009 at 6:20 am
June 3, 2009 at 6:21 am
That's more like it. By the way, are you related to Dana White in any way?
June 3, 2009 at 6:25 am
Wow…you're good…so good that you can plug in my name and pretend to be me. Hey, at least you spelled my name right.
June 3, 2009 at 6:32 am
IM ANGRY. SPELLING IS HARD
June 3, 2009 at 6:36 am
Oh please…if I could do that I would write something like what a turn on it is to read my rants and opinions. Give me a little credit.
June 3, 2009 at 6:41 am
I didn't mean you, I meant whoever did it.
And in answer to your question – if were related to DW, do you think I'd complain about his relationship with press? I'd have a lot more inside info, and I'd actually get in to UFC shows!
And to the poser above – spelling isn't hard if you have more than a 5th grade education.
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