Andrei Arlovski 360: On The Road To Reckoning Episode 1

Andrei Arlovski 360: On The Road To Reckoning Episode 1

First Episode of Andrei Arlovski 360 Episode 1 to hype Affliction 2 “Day of Reckoning” – Andrei Arlovski vs. Fedor Emelianenko

The Sacrifice To Be The Best
As Andrei Arlovski prepares for the most anticipated heavyweight bout in MMA history against Fedor Emelianenko, he, along with his trainers reflect on the journey that brought The Pit Bull to this great moment.


  1. tom

    December 20, 2008 at 2:22 am

    i hope andrei will get the win…please knock out fador please


    December 20, 2008 at 6:55 am

    i agree, a great fighter sure, but no one will ever know other than hardcore fans because their the only ones who see him. Gonna go down in history as the best fighter no one heard of. He needs to start fighting more than once a year.

  3. dane drebin

    December 20, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    im not quite sure how holding the wamma belt makes you the UNDISPUTED heavyweight champ of the world but whatever

  4. steve

    December 20, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    Fedor is the undisputed HW champ. No matter if he holds the blet in the ufc wamma or not. He beat the best the ufc has to offer twice which is Big Nog and has basically never really lost. You cant argue with his stats. If arlovski wins that doesnt necesarily bump him to #1 in everyones books but it does in mine. Fedor is the best and to be t5he best u have to beat the best which Arlovski would be doing. But he isnt going to so im done talking about it . LOL

  5. Fedor's gay

    December 21, 2008 at 9:31 am

    Steveo….I would consider myself a hardcore fan and I don't view Fedor as a legend really. I think he was really good in Pride and then after that wouldn't fight anyone good until Affliction got started. Couture is a legend. He has been fighting top fighters his whole career.


  6. ron shaw

    December 21, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    being a hardcore WWE fan doesn't count though. watch a few more of fedors old fights and still say he isn't a legend. he is what mma is all about. he has ice running through his blood and an animal against all of his opponents. he will be playing cards 10 minutes before the fight with arlovski.

  7. steve

    December 21, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    Fedors not a legend? R u fucking kidding me? You know nothing about mma. Couture is 16-9. Fedor is 28-1 with his loss coming by dactr stoppage due to cut. He has fought UFC vets and has beaten 4 UFC champions. Now im not saying that Randy isnt a legend but for you to say Fedor isnt a legend. Wow.


    December 21, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    im nto saying randy isnt a legend but when every one of your fights is for a belt it isnt that hard to win a few and I agree that fedor needs to come to the ufc and prove himself to me against some guys that i have seen fight a bit more. Its not like im a fedor homer or anything like that i am just tired of everybody in the heavyweight division getting kicked out of the ufc or leaving to fight elsewhere after a few fights. to me its the weakest division in the ufc with middleweight not to far behind. Other than hendo and silva there isnt much there either. Light, Welter, and LHVY are so stacked its stupid but heavyweight just isnt impresive to me right now

  9. dane drebin

    December 21, 2008 at 10:17 pm

    the fact is if you arent the champ in the best organization you arent the UNDISPUTED champ

    God you're freaking retarded steve im pretty sure everyone would agree that fedor is the best heavyweight in the world right now but when you are the champion of an organization that has had one show you are not the UNDISPUTED champ. you are the DISPUTED champ. look up the word undisputed. fedor might as well be the cagerage or the elitexc champ.


    i seriously hope they succeed and do well but when they have had one show their belts hold no merritt yet.

    i could take four of the best NBA stars right now and make my own organization put them on a team and call them the world champs of the wamma basketball federation but nobodys gunna give a fuck about them and will still consider the best team in the NBA to be the world champs. and that goes for any sports organization. if you arent the champ in the biggest organization its a plain fact you arent the undisputed champ.

    but same goes for lesnar and nog i dont consider either of them the undisputed champs aswell.

  10. dane drebin

    December 21, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    anderson silvas an undisputed champion because he combined the two biggest organizations belts the pride and the ufc belt together

    forest is aswell because he beat rampage who combined the titles

    i dont care how many times fedor beat nog in pride or how much better he is than the ufc champ at a certain time he hasnt proved shit against the ufc champ. fedor never put his pride title on the line against the ufc champ and until he does that he will never be the undisputed champ and thats a fact. thats like saying because u beat the olympic gold medalist in wrestling tons of times in tournaments that you should be a gold medalist… no you ahve to win at the olympics. you gotta put it on the line and win when it counts. and for fedor his olympics will be in the ufc that will be when he is truely tested and judged by the entire world.

  11. T.R.

    December 22, 2008 at 12:48 am

    I'm with dane on this one. I think some of these fans would tickle fedors balls if he asked them to. I think fedor could go to the octagon and be the champ but until he swallows some pride and signs a deal we will never know.

    undisputed — No way.

  12. Tim

    December 22, 2008 at 1:31 am

    I agree Fedor is not the champ or is he a legend. He is well known but if you look at his record 28-1, the one loss was a loss to NOG and two of his wins were against NOG but by Decision…So in other words he has yet to BEAT BIG NOG cause to me winning a slight decision mean nothing as in those 2 cases. Yes Fedor is great but as i said before no one is unbeatable absolutely no one and i believe Fedor can lose and dont be surprised if AA beats him. Fedor has always fough mediocre competition with a few big names in there but the majority of his fights came against Who the fuck are you names… So dont talk records…if you want to talk records look at Big NOG now that guy in my eyes is a legend in this sport…he has never been KO'd and he gets his ass beat but finds ways to win that is a true legendary fighter in my eyes…much props to NOG, i wasnt to keen on him at first but after reviewing his stats theres no argueing the man is a legend in MMA and in my eyes Fedor doesnt compare even though he holds to decision wins against the man, Can fedor take a ass whooping and still find a way to win? no one knows cause the man is good enough to end fights before that can happen…winning doesnt make you legend is how hard you get hit and how fast you get up and keep fighting…those are true MMA legends….the ones that take and give beatings and still find ways to overcome the pain, blood, stress and overcome it all to find the ways to win and i am not just talking about NOG there are others out there, but surely fedor isnt one of them..skill wise sure you can say he is a legend but being a overall true MMA legend hell no…..go suck on his balls a little more and then tell me how much of a legend he really is. I dont hate the man but to me he hasnt prove that to me yet and i am sure much agree with me…Fedor is great fighter but no legend YET…

  13. Tong Po

    December 22, 2008 at 2:02 am

    UFC fans just kill me. Not all of them are like this but most are. They think that once you are in the UFC that you have arrived. I have heard UFC fans tell me that they have the best fighters in the world. If that is the case when Dana White took Chuck Liddel over to pride why did Rampage get the Iceman pregnant. UFC is not the only organization that has the best fighters. I am sure there is someone out there that can beat Fedor, but we just not have seen him yet. Anyone can be beaten. It will say alot when and if Fedor beat AA. Personally I think he will. UFC fans are so elitist when it comes to the UFC. If you are not in the UFC you are nothing many think. Maybe just maybe many of these great fighters wont sign with the UFC because Dana wont pay the fighters anything. Look at all the fighters that keep leaving the UFC. For what those guys go through and have to endure, UFC fighters should be making alot more than they are. I am sure noone can disagree with me on that one.

  14. zalbag

    December 22, 2008 at 2:29 am

    YEah agreed Tong but if AA wins it goes against your opinion because, AA is UFC veteran and every black belt in brazilian keyboarding will be on here and Sherdog saying that He was never for real and he was a fraud because he lost when he got to fight an A-typical UFC heavyweight. But im done there are so many better things happening in the sport to celebrate instead of just talking about Fedor/Lesnar, or bj gsp. This conversation is way too tired all of the same people saying the same things and im no exception.

  15. Tim

    December 22, 2008 at 3:58 am


  16. roy

    December 22, 2008 at 4:17 am

    tim your so far off, nog never beat fedor and the two wins where not close decisions they where beatings.fedor is a legend and is the undisputed hw champ. he had the pride belt witch holds as much merit as the ufc belt when they where alive and no one took that from him and he already beat the ufc champ twice and he has the wama belt not that it matters. and tim you asked if fedor can take a ass whipping and still win, yes he can and has.

  17. lisa

    December 22, 2008 at 4:35 am

    i think this fight is going to be boring. It would be a much better fight between Kimbo Slice and Fedor. People dont give Kimbo the respect he deserves. Fedor would have a hard time beating Kimbo

  18. dane drebin

    December 22, 2008 at 6:14 am

    lisa fedor would nto ahve a hard time beating kimbo i hope that was a joke lmao

    fedor is most definetly a legend

    he is nto the undisputed champ and if you think that you dojnt know what undisputed means

    there is no undisputed heavyweight champ right now period

  19. roy

    December 22, 2008 at 6:18 am

    i didn't even respond to lisa it was so far out there

    i see what your saying dane, but fedor is the number 1 there another champ that can dispute that.not nog or lesnar.

  20. lisa

    December 22, 2008 at 7:05 am

    i was trying to get a rise out of you all for my personal amusement. Everyone knows that Fedor is the man. Noone can beat him. He is a legend.

  21. roy

    December 22, 2008 at 7:34 am

    in that case it was funny lisa

  22. Tim

    December 22, 2008 at 9:47 am

    With all due respect who really is to say who is the number one HWGHT? really all we know is that Fedor is agreat Fighter but a legend hell no…i am sorry but for someone who stood toe to toe with Fedor and not be Ko'd or Submitted and to only lose by Decision would mean that he was very close to beating him. NOG stated that he only lost to Fedor due to his lack of size muscle wise and strenght he has since than put on much more mass and he believe he can beat Fedor anytime and anyplace now. I see your point Roy on few things but one i disagree with is NOG has made himself a Legend by getting the crap beat out of him and then still finding ways to win and as far as i know Fedor has never been known for that and the true test of a fighter/warrior is their Heart and Guts and Nog got them both and has proven that undisputingly while Fedor has only proven that he can beat people he hasnt been put to that test as extesivley like Nog has nor any other fighter. Maybe its just my lack of inexperience with Fedor but personally i do not think he is the best HWGHT out there…if i had to say who i would have to say NOG is due to his overall abilities and not just records and crap but by what he has proven he is one man i would not want to face. Fedor shit i would face him at least with him i know therse a chance to KO him or submit him but with NOG thats nearly impossible you know with him its going to be war. Fedor is a great fighter by any means but has alot to prove in my eyes and it starts with AA if he beat him convincingly i will give him more respect than what i have been. Lisa that was a very funny comment. Anderson Silva is the true Undisputed Champ and in my eyes would beat Fedor if the catch match would ever happen which it wont.

  23. Tim

    December 22, 2008 at 9:49 am

    Rephrase my or any other fighter comment…to there are more fighters out there like NOG.

  24. roy

    December 22, 2008 at 10:10 am

    it is pretty easy to see tim, fedor beat the shit out of nog who you say is a legend and i agree but fedor smashed that legend in a fight.silva would not beat fedor it wouldn't even be close.go watch fedor vs fujita and vs randleman to see him take some punishment and win.sorry if he has had a fighter that been able to put a beating on him like nog has and of course nog would say i could beat him but he hasn't and they where not close fights.inside mma had a poll best fighter of all time guess who won? fedor. just ask anyone in the business or any fighter who is the best hw 99% will say fedor when asked who is the top p4p alot will say fedor. thats good enough for me to know he is the best hw out there.

  25. roy

    December 22, 2008 at 10:12 am

    ps. tim if anyone is a legend in the sport it is fedor please show me someone with a record like his.

  26. roy

    December 22, 2008 at 10:32 am

    also you memtioned size and muscle mass fedor is 6" 230 and a little soft in the middle really a small hw and nog is 6"3 240+ and more ripped than much more size does he need to beat him?

  27. fedor24

    December 22, 2008 at 10:42 am

    I've never understood how a humble, soft spoken guy such as Fedor can catch so much hate for being the best of the best by beating the best of the best. I honestly don't know if there is a more class act in mma than Fedor. His record in Rings, Pancreas, Pride, Bodog, Afliction and Sambo speak for themselves. NOBODY can deny his current status as the best hvy out there based on his record. Watch his fights in detail and you see a pattern of excellence you will not see anywhere else. I am a big Fedor fan but I love Nog and Barnett. Randy is awesome as well. I can be objective about the facts. I don't like Brock but I do think in a couple years he will be ready to fight and perhaps beat anbody including Fedor. I think he is a tool but he is a great talent. Just show a little respect and you will get it. Fedor's #1 period.

  28. roy

    December 22, 2008 at 10:57 am

    great post fedor 24. just so people know i really am not a huge fedor fan when i watched pride i rooted for him and wandy to lose every time(i am a big nog fan), i like underdogs and u didn't get to know them back than no translations.overtime i respected them both as great fighters and upon seeing more video on them especially fedor i saw how great of a person he really is.i am not saying he is unbeatable but he is the best hw out there and even with a loss no one is close to him yet

  29. Morey

    December 22, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    Nog can take a beating from heavyweights like no other and then catch them later in the rounds. I don't take anything away from Fedor or any other fighter for not being about to finish Nog.

    You guys have a point that Fedor hasn't fought enough names since Pride to classify him as the undisputed champ. He seems to be fighting regularly again so if he gets through AA and then Barnett that will clear this all up.

  30. Ryan S

    December 22, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    Tim, you say Fedor has never been tested as far as getting beaten badly, does that mean he has to start going easy on people, so that YOU can think he is tested? The fact that most of the experts and most of the fighters think Fedor is the #1 heavyweight is good enough reason for me, but I went a step further and watched his fights and I agree. #1 p4p, I couldn't say, but #1 heavyweight definately. And why is it so weird that people think he is a legend? Some people say Matt Hughes is a legend. I disagree. Is Dan Severn a legend? Is Mark Coleman a legend? Ken Shamrock? Randy Couture? Royce Gracie? They are all UFC hall of famers and Fedor's record is better than all of theirs. Everyone, say what you want, I think Fedor can definately be considered a legend, but who fucking cares? Fedor doesn't give one shit about what any one of us says.

  31. fedor24

    December 22, 2008 at 11:34 pm

    I think Tim is just trying to say that he considers legendary status to include how a fighter reacts when struggling or after a loss. We have not seen Fedor in trouble to often (Fujita) against a capable opponent. I am sure we will see these things out of Fedor as the gap between him and the rest of the heavys is closing fast. It would interesting to see how Fedor would handle AA if he gets stunned they way he did against Fujita. AA is a good finisher. I kind of agree with Tim as my favorite Fedor fights are Fujita and Randleman. I like to see guys struggle and battle for wins. Right now Fedor is just to good for the current competition at heavy. Unless he makes a mistake he will win easily. If AA doesn't make it hard for Fedor I know Barnett will. Barnett can beat Fedor on the right night and that could be Fedor's toughest fight since Nog.

  32. steve

    December 22, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    Everyone read danes post "God you’re freaking retarded steve" because I said that fedor is the undisputed champ. Dane this just proves how fucking stupid u really are. You sau Fedor is NOT the undisputed champion but he has beat the interim champ who will beat the other SO called champ Brock "WWE" Lesnar. Fedor would smash Lesnar and he has already beat Nog who is the best HW in the UFC and besides that he beat Tim Sylvia in 36 seconds. Noone in the UFC can beat Sylvia like fedor did and I dont think anyone will either. Dane and Tim r fucking idiots. Well I just think Tim is obssesed with Lesnar and will do anything to downplay how much better ppl in the HW division r then him. Dane how about u look up undisputed b/c it means by definition is (generally agreed upon; not subject to dispute) and so far u and man crush tim r the only dumbasses arguijng that fedor is the best HW and champ of the division no matter what title he holds. And what is SO FUCKING FUNNY ABOUT THE WHOLE THING IS ANSWER THIS DANE IF ITS NOT UNDISPUTED THEN WHO IS THE BETTER THAN HIM? B/c if u cant say anyone then it is in fact UNDISPUTED. Dumbass.

  33. steve

    December 22, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    Yeah your right Fedor isnt a legend b/c he has never got the shit beat out of him? He needs to lose and comeback strong? Basically what your saying is that fedor needs to do bad in a fight and not destroy ppl to become a legend. Beating everybody easily shouldnt EVER hurt their legendary status but only solidify his status as being the greatest HW champ in all of mma history. Beating the shit out of everyone u fight is a good thing.

  34. fedor24

    December 23, 2008 at 12:34 am

    I agree steve. I think Fedor is the very best mma fighter we have ever seen and history will only increase his status as the most dominant fighter of this era. All these years he has been the one to beat and no one has yet. His record against to best fighters in the world sets him apart from everyone in the hvy division. His almost 10 year run in mma makes him arguably the best p4p. If we start judging fighters on how well they take a beating in a loss we better put Herring and Fujita in the legends column as well. Nog is an elite athlete and fighter. By far he is the best hvy in the UFC. Fedor got Nog pregnant twice. If he beats AA and Barnett that will add 2 more former UFC champs to his tally. Does he have to beat every single fighter in the UFC to get some respect? I am tired of hearing about fedor not fighting the top talent. Everyone agrees the UFC is weak at heavy. He just destroyed Sylvia and is fighting AA and Barnett(maybe) next. Until this guy loses there is NO argument. Fedor #1.

  35. Tim

    December 23, 2008 at 1:43 am

    Seve, i dont really care what the fuck you say but calling me an idiot for voicing my opinions is down right stupidity on your part. Isnt this site about opinions and learning a thing or two from them. Anyways i have not even mentioned Lesnar in this post from a fight standpoint and this just goes to prove how unintelligient you really are as you say Fedor will beat Brock Fedor would beat everyone well that has remanined to be seen as there are well over a billlion fighters out there and guess what i guarentee you that there is someone right now who is maybe in the military or foreign country training martial arts or whatever that could literally KILL Any fighter out there and i literally mean Kill…how about Fedor go play death games over in that Malaysiai every year they hold like a million dollor prize for whoever goes through all the competition no wieght class no rules except for few but it basically fighting for your life i know cause when i was in the military i went there and saw this….seriously you are so hung up on Fedor being the best fighter in the world…you know who i think is the best fighter in the world our US troops abroad fighting and killing for your freedom. On another note Fedor is great fighter but he will be beat and until he is tested in a battle per say like NOG has been in i will not give him much respect cause we have not seen Fedor come from behind in a fight and see where his heart really is. To me i think he is scarred to get in that situation cause he knows he wouldnt be able to recover and that is why he trains so hard at offense and why is is really good at it. If fedor fights some more top competion and beat AA and Barnett then i will give him more respect cause both those men will put him to the test and give him a battle.

  36. Tim

    December 23, 2008 at 1:59 am

    In all honestly this is childish and who the fuck really cares if he is a legend or not and as someone said before Fedor doesnt give a shit what we all think and is probably laughing at us. Bottom line Fedor is a great fighter and there are alot of other great fighters out there.

  37. steve

    December 23, 2008 at 3:58 am

    There are well over a billion fighters out there? Tim come on buddy. Thats a bit of a stretch and also why the fuck are you bringing up US troops? U think they can beat Fedor up? Then you say literally kill fedor. I dont think so. I never said fedor was the hardest person in the world or that he could win beat everyone in the world up.As I told dumbass Dane Drebin when he said that Lesnar could beat everyone in the world up that nobody can beat everyone up.All I said was that he is the Undisputed champ in the HW division. That has nothing to do with killing somebody lmao.

  38. MW74

    December 23, 2008 at 4:36 am

    … the immortal words of one of the best fighters ever to be filmed…"can't we all just get along?"…(see Rodney King vs LAPD)….Until Fedor fights someone who poses a legitimate threat his legacy WILL have an asterisk(*) by it in every book. We have yet to see him fight anyone truly dangerous….Sylvia?! Come on…Nog practically fell asleep in the middle of their fight and still managed to beat him…and Randy whooped him like Tim was his stepson…Pride aside…Fedor hasn't been tested in Years@! it doesn't mean he won't beat these other guys…just that a fight against Mir, Nog2,Randy or yes even Lesnar would pose a greater risk to his legend…and that is exactly what would solidify him in the hearts of those who doubt him…and c'mon…who wouldn't pay to see those fights…regardless of WHO you are routing for?….Seacrest-out!

  39. steve

    December 23, 2008 at 4:42 am

    Nog2? He has fought nog 3 times beat him twice and had 1 nc due to an accidental cut. And saying that nog about fell asleep no he just couldnt touch tim on the feet so he pulled guard. Tim about put him to sleep. So if he goes to the ufc and beats who lesnar? thats gonna make him the best? thats hilarious.

  40. roy

    December 23, 2008 at 4:58 am

    i agree steve, you can put down tim but he was the ufc champ and beat all the other guys to get there and you mean nog 4? i would watch it but the other fights where not close enough to warrent a rematch.mir please don't even bring him up how would that solidify fedor. the only fights that make sense are aa and barnett and he is doing that so whats to complain about?

  41. Tim

    December 23, 2008 at 6:42 am

    I agree with MW74 and Steve your not getting my point if Fedor is such a bad ass why doesnt he fight in the death matches in Mongolia? bet you didnt even know they existed did you Yes every year Mongolia holds an open wieght tournament that isnt in the news or anything its been going on for generations and i was there to witness this when i was stationed in the military abroad. Anyone of those men who make it out of there alive could manhandle Fedor but thats irrelavent because none of them would ever fight in the US. Enough said, Fedor is great but he will always have an sterisk on him until he convingly beats top level talent going forward and well my comment about a bilion fighters was out of line i apologize but surely you cant disagree that the best fighters in the world are our US troops, i was just throwing that in there. I agree with Roy as well.

  42. roy

    December 23, 2008 at 7:30 am

    Yes every year Mongolia holds an open wieght tournament that isnt in the news or anything its been going on for generations and i was there to witness this when i was stationed in the military abroad. Anyone of those men who make it out of there alive could manhandle Fedor

    what are you talking about tim? why fedor and why not everother fighter than shouldn't they be in this death match.and if these guys that fight in the death match are so good why aren't they fighting for money not just in the ufc but any place.what people don't understand is fedor already did it, he has no asterisk for what beating everyone?does royce and all the other greats have to come back to verify what they have done?fedor is fighting aa and than hopefully barnett those are the best hw's in the world for him to fight and if he loses one so what it would be about time who else in mma has a record as good as his?

  43. fedor24

    December 23, 2008 at 8:21 am

    Well said Roy. Fedor fought the best in the world at the time. He is now fighting the best in the world to continue his legacy. There is no asterik because he HAS beaten everyone. He is continuing to fight everyone. He will lose one day and we will all look back on what a great run he had. He may even come back and win more fights. If his career ended today he would go down as the best because he beat the best during his career. Someday another fighter will be even more dominant and will be considered the best. Just like boxing. Is marciano or jack dempsey overrated because they beat everybody in their era?

  44. Tim

    December 23, 2008 at 8:39 am

    Well Roy i understand some points but we are talking about Fedor and true every fighter should than but i dont know why they dont come to the states hmm mainly its because they cant get a green card i dont know or a working permit or a passport or the real competition is over there who the f knows. You know after all this talk and thinking about things maybe the reason people are so against Fedor and his so called legendary status is because for most of his career he didnt fight in the states so not much people know about him and he hasnt been marketed like Couture or Liddel have been. Fedor is a great fighter by any means i will admit but the best No…records only mean one thing you didnt get beat or is it that you never faced the right people to beat you. Fedor has fought some of the best but not all of the best…truthfully we have not even seen the best yet somewhere someplace there is someone out there who is more dominant and would put the name Fedor to shame. Rocky Marciano was great during his time and yes is a legend but he got out when the competition got tougher as he got older. A legend to me is Randy Couture someone who fights beyond his age and has proven by a shadow of a doubt that he is a warrior win or lose. Not saying Fedor isnt but he has not proven it yet…give hime another 15 years and see what he has done in that time period he will be 47 Randy is currently 45 and still kicking per say. Fedor has made a legacy a tainted one…maybe maybe not but we are not the judges of that..the fact remains that Fedor is a great fighter one of the best of the era besided others…is he the best pound per pound fighter? probably not as others can make a claim to that title as well all we know for sure is he is a great fighter now its up to him to secure his legacy as one the best fighters in the world by facing top notch talent….and stop facing mediocre to good.

  45. roy

    December 23, 2008 at 9:07 am

    tim no offense its not personal but you contridict yourself is anderson best p4p he faces mediocore talent as do everyfighter, there is no fighter that has fought every top guy so why is fedor held to a different standard, and randy is a legend but he has had his ass beat a numbner of times how can you blame fedor for winning?and again his legacy is already secure he already did it the rest is icing on top. if he beats aa and barnett there is NO ONE EVEN CLOSE no body has fought the top 5 hw's and beat them all.

  46. roy

    December 23, 2008 at 9:11 am

    tim i used to hate on fedor too, just because everyone said he was the best i wanted him to lose.kinda like lesnar there is so many people on his jock that i hate on him sometimes.i try to respect him and what he has done as i have come to respect fedor for what he has done i am not saying he is the best because i am a fan i say it because he has shown it.

  47. Tim

    December 23, 2008 at 9:13 am

    Nothings ever personel between us Roy…i know i did and you have a point. Bottom line Fedor is the best HWGHT as of right now today and his legacy is secure and for him to train and compete in other competitions is amazing outside of MMA. I agree with you Roy…thanks for helping me see your point a bit further. Merry X mas.

  48. roy

    December 23, 2008 at 9:43 am

    right on tim, also because of you i have grown to respect lesnar and see him as the next real hw champ if he sticks with it.MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND ALL THE OTHER CAGETODAY READERS.

  49. Ryan S

    December 23, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Tim, you babble about the most pointless things sometimes. Oh yeah, Fedor is the best? Well, he should fight god. I think God is the best fighter. He should fight him in Mongolia. To the death. I still want to know about my original question. Are all those UFC hall of famers more of legends than Fedor, who has a better record than all of them?

  50. Ryan S

    December 23, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    Dude, I think we can all agree that we are all grateful for our troops, and we all support them whole-heartedly, but it is absolutely POINTLESS to bring them up in this topic.

  51. steve

    December 23, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    fight to the death. LMAO. Yeah the ufc fighters are all bitches b/c they wont fight to the death. They should bring swords and othre weapons in the cage and fight it out;) No but really ty all whoo posted for fedor b/c u finally showed Tim he was wrong and I also think he is a lil bit nuts. Seriously you said Fedor hadnt beat ALL of the best but like roy said. Nobody fights every person in your division. Anderson Silva hasnt beat Thales Leites and his last fight was with Patrick Cote lol. But im sure you would consider him the P4P best. Like Roy said noone keeps fighting the top guys in a row. The UFC babies there champions while they can get as much money and build them up to make a super fight. Then they will face a TOP guy. Like A. Silva. They gave him Cote and now Leites. That is pathetic. Move him upto 205 where he should really be fighting anyways. Then have him fight the best guys.This is where worldwde rankings need to come into MMA. Or atleast the UFC needs to make there own rankings. But they wont do that b/c that would mean they would risk having there champion lose every fight.

  52. Tim

    December 24, 2008 at 1:35 am

    Ryan to answer your Questions Yes the hall of Famers are all legends even Ken Shamrock due to the fact that if it wasnt for them we wouldnt be sitting her talking about Fedor or any other fighter…those hall of famers help launch MMA to the level it is today wether you choose to realize it or not Fedor had nothing to do with it…it was Coleman, Severn, Shamrock, Gracie, etc.. who made MMA and therefore as an answer to your ? of are they more legends than Fedor Fuck Yes they are they are the founding fathers of MMA. Fedor as Roy helped me to understand a bit and i went a little of line a few times but he is a great fighter end of story.

  53. Tim

    December 24, 2008 at 1:39 am

    Some of you here take context of words too seriously..when i was talking Death MAtches, i was trying to imply that you are all so hung on Fedor balls and if he is truly the best and badest man on the planet than he should fight in those types of fights…it was merly a statement thats all.

  54. fedor24

    December 24, 2008 at 5:59 am

    I love the passion Tim puts into his opinions. I don't always agree with him but I don't think he's dumb. In the end all that matters is can have this argument about who the best is. Better yet we are going to get to see it first hand next year with the great matchups ahead. We are at the start of something. Like being alive and seeing John L sullivan, Jack Dempsey and Joe Louis at the turn of the century. I can't wait until we can tell our grandkids about Randy, fedor, silva,penn etc. We will argue that whoever that generations superfighter is wouldn't last 1 rd a real fighter like Nog or GSP. merry christmas everybody!

  55. roy

    December 24, 2008 at 6:04 am

    yes it would be no fun if we always agreed, and tim is a good commenter i like his input.

  56. Ryan S

    December 24, 2008 at 6:48 am

    I don't think Tim is dumb either. Fuck, I'm glad he is on this site. It gives me someone to argue with. Seriously Tim, I do enjoy arguing with you. You get me and I get you back. I just fail to see how someone with a better record isn't considered a legend as well. I do not imply that he is necessarily better than the hall of famers, but he could be called a legend. I agree Tim, they are the founding fathers. The problem is, I guarantee some of the "fans" of MMA don't know who most of those men are (I don't think I consider anyone on this site as one of those "fans"). Tim, I don't know if you have as much fun arguing with me on this site as I do with you, but I sure hope so. I'm gonna go find you now on another thread j/k.

  57. fedor24

    December 24, 2008 at 8:17 am

    I second ryan on this one. Life on the board would be boring without Tim starting fires! You gotta love this place.

  58. MW74

    December 24, 2008 at 8:23 am


  59. MW74

    December 24, 2008 at 8:31 am

    ……and to further ballwash THIS site….I've seen the car crashes some of the other places refer to as open forum…always junk as soon as school lets out….and tons of serious folks talking about kim-blo slice's comeback….Tim,ryanS,steve,dane,fedor24,roy…to all..merry/happy chrisma-hannu-kwanza-cha enjoy tomorrow and enjoy saturday night!

  60. steve

    December 26, 2008 at 1:09 am

    I completlty agree that u need to have ppl disagree and ya i do agree arguing. I will disagree if u say the sky is blue by saying it its more white. U know i just love to agrue. I may say a lot of shit but if u r taking it really personal then dont post on this site. Anything anybody puts about anyone is really not gonna affect me in my RL and if anyone is letting it get to them then they need to stop posting. I just wish Dane would have answered my question about if its not undisputed then who is better. Haha.

  61. Tim

    December 26, 2008 at 1:50 am

    LOL…you are all too funny and as Roy knows there is nothing personal with me unless you start bad mouthing a person in our little group and i seriously mean bad mouthing. Shit i went on another site and all they do is literally bad mouth people like saying your so fucking stupid and i am going to kill you if i ever see you. Seriously i dont know what people think but just because you cant see one another doesnt mean you can act like a total jack ass and say stupid shit, that just shows the type of person you truly are a little bitch in my opinion and someone with no respect for others opinions. In all due honestly i may say some stupid stuff sometimes but usually in the end…i learn more about something than i did before due to the arguements and feedback i get. On this site Nothing should or is ever personal with me unless stated above you start seriously bad mouthing and not the normal shit we do to eachother I mean the real out there cruel shit that doesnt belong. So…and of course i am probably the only person who is on here only because i have to work today…i hope you all had a merry christmas and enjoy the fight saturday.

  62. freddie

    January 4, 2009 at 12:48 am

    Guys, I might be moving of the subject a tad here but Ken Shamrock – Hall Of Fame?? Come on, we are talking about marketing here, if we are talking about track record and statistics there are many other fighters I would rather put in the mix. On another note, why doesn't Dana White stop being so greedy and pay the top heavy weight fighters what they are worth and all of our questions would be answered once and for all, I have flown to Las Vegas 4 times and paid $800 to see a fight and I'm still not ringside by a long shot. The money is there but the UFC is being too damn greedy in not paying the fighters what they deserve but would rather put making money ahead of answering our questions. Dana can not say undesputed until he puts his money where his mouth is and brings the top H/W's in to the UFC HW devision. p.s. love you guys from the USA, I'm from the Uk Paramilitary, we live and die together and believe me I have seen it, although I love this sport the one I hold in the hall of fame is the one who covers my arse!

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