Dana White: Carwin “hates” Brock Lesnar



Dana White,

“Brock is ready to go now and wants to fight … Carwin makes the most sense. He’s 11-0, and he’s been kicking the [expletive] out of everybody. [Gabriel] Gonzaga destroyed [Mirko] Cro Cop and he [Carwin] totally destroyed Gonzaga. Plus, he hates Brock Lesnar.”[Yahoo]

UFC President Dana White finally breaks his silence to Dave Meltzer about the UFC 106 battle between heavyweights Brock Lesnar and Shane Carwin. White, already hyping the hatred between the two fighters, claims that Carwin “hates Brock Lesnar”.

Here’s what Carwin had to say following Brock Lesnars performance at UFC 100,

“The flipping off of the fans that just lined your pocket with millions of dollars is just lame … He may be a champion, but he has a long ways to go before he earns the respect of a champion. The fans are why we do this, Brock. This sport is not about fat paychecks and drama. It is about hard work and sacrifice for a shot to do what you did [that] night. It doesn’t matter how much money you make if you can’t earn your peers’ respect and the respect and love of the greatest sporting fans in the world.”

UFC 106 is expected to take place on November 21 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas.


  1. Tim

    August 21, 2009 at 5:01 am

    All i have to say is remember the last time someone came out talking shit against Lesnar….they got KTFO. If you look at Carwin vs Gonzaga fight, carwin had his hands full and caught gonzaga with a lucky right. Based upon that fight if Carwin performs the same manner Lesnar will win easily. However i do think this will be Brocks first true test as we will get to see his conditioning come into play as this will be a fast paced fight with both using huge amounts of energy in taking and defending takedowns.

    I am intrigued to see how lesnar does off his back if he gets taken down as well as how he handles someone of similiar credentials who can somewhat match his power.

    Like i have been saying Carwin fights hunchback style and he has very very bad form overall for an MMA fighter and mainly just uses his size and power to overwelm his opponents which is similiar to Lesnar only difference is the overall athletic ability which is in Lesnars Favor by far meaning strength, speed, and endurance and conditioning. Carwin trains in Colorado, Lesnar trains in the woods of Minnesota and his training regime is unreal and saddistic to a point.

    One thing is for sure this will be a great fight and for once i can see Carwin winning this fight but i am 80% lesnar for this one. Cant wait for the weigh ins.

  2. hosan

    August 21, 2009 at 5:50 am

    I don't see this as real shit talk like mir was pullin. Mir didn't take lesnar seriously IMO and that was his downfall. Mir had no takedown D vs brock, an insanely great wrestler and athlete in general.

    I don't know how this fight will play out, but I think it's dumb to say gonzaga beat cro-cop and this guy beat gonzaga so he's automatically better. That's not a good way to view these things.

  3. Killah Hill

    August 21, 2009 at 6:06 am

    All hype. Blah Blah Blah. Brock will crush him like he did Mir. I HOPE Carwin beats Brock's ass, but I'm not holding my breath for that to actually happen.

  4. tim

    August 21, 2009 at 6:48 am

    i agree this is a bad way to view it.

  5. Oswald Gobblecock

    August 21, 2009 at 6:48 am

    Glad this fight is gonna happen instead of Carwin running through that over hyped stepping stone that Cain is IMO.

  6. other derek

    August 21, 2009 at 6:55 am

    off the subject but does anyone know how many fights anderson silva has left on contract with the ufc?????

  7. Tim

    August 21, 2009 at 7:48 am

    3 more fights….

  8. other derek

    August 21, 2009 at 7:51 am

    cool thanks

  9. Ryan S

    August 21, 2009 at 7:52 am

    Tim, you may call that punch that knocked out Gonzaga "lucky," but if you watch it again, you can see that punch had VERY short range and was capable of knocking out someone that does not have a very weak chin. I think he has the power in his punches to knock out Lesnar, but I think we all knock Lesnar has the same power. I think the deciding factor in this fight will be whether or not Carwin can stop Lesnar's takedowns.

  10. derek

    August 21, 2009 at 8:50 am

    carwin was lucky? he has KOed ALL of his opponents… all 10 of them… within the first 2 minutes. that's like saying fedor was lucky when he KOed AA.

  11. derek

    August 21, 2009 at 8:54 am

    on the feet, i have to give carwin the advantage. in terms of wrestling, brock seems to be working that game exclusively. carwin is pretty capable on the ground too, but the question is — can carwin be able to absorb those hammerfists?

  12. Mike

    August 21, 2009 at 8:57 am

    Carwin's KO WAS lucky….. lucky he didn't get finished by GG

  13. Tim

    August 21, 2009 at 8:58 am

    I agree with that…we know both men have power but based upon fight vs fight, i have to say Lesnar is way more powerfull…come one one punch broke herrings orbital socket and a grazed punch that hit the side of his head KO'd Couture and well we all saw how bad Mir looked after round one from short but powerfull lesnar punches…Lesnar has some brutal power, i mean he hits you once and you already have a welt on you.. where as Carwin from what i have seen has KO power but its different…both men have the power of course its just hard to explain its like Lesnar is a Mac Truck mixed in with a Camaro and Carwin is a Dodge Charger…get the point…if the two collide i guarentee you the Mac truck will be left standing…like the anology or not both men could win this fight but i am sticking to lesnar win or lose. i just want a good performance from both men and an entertaining fight. Like i said thought Carwin may be 260 and 6'2 and lesnar may be 6'3 and 265 but if you look at there last wiegh in pics you can clearly see Lesnar is the far bigger fighter muscular wise and bonemass wise, which would in essence say lesnar is the stronger fighter which we will have to wait and see come Nov 21st.

  14. roy

    August 21, 2009 at 9:10 am

    i think carwin was lucky to win gabe, but the punch was not a lucky punch. i think brock would have a hard fight with gabe as well. both guys are so strong does it really matter who hits harder? either one has more than enough power and if they stand it will be who ever lands first.

  15. steve

    August 21, 2009 at 9:35 am

    yeah I said he was lucky when it happened even when everyone was saying I was crazy. Gonzaga should have beat Carwin.He had him hurt and Carwin was lucky to not get finished. And he was lucky that Gonzaga waisted his energy trying to finish him. His stand up is much better but he got tired and sloppy and got caught it happens. Carwin wasnt lucky to ko gonzaga in a way though also. A 265 lber hitting you as hard as he can causing a KO is not luck. So it was a bit of both. But carwin looked sloppy standing to say the least. And slow. Lesnar is just like him on the feet but carwin has the adv. in the striking as far as technique and power. But if lesnar can take Carwin down and lay on him wearing him down he can then get g&p later giving him the win. I dont see Lesnar trying to stand with Carwin though. Did you Lesnar him against Mir. He didnt want any of the stand up in the second fight because he knew mir had the advantage. I cant wait to see this. I am still iffy on Carwin though. Same as Lesnar really. Lesnar lacks stand up and Carwin lacks a bit of a chin. He wasnt handling Gonzagas punches good at all. Everyone one was rocking him. Both of these guys could KO eachother. My pic is gonna be decided when I see how big the size difference is in the weigh in. If it looks like they are very close to the same size im going with Carwin. But if Lesnar looks much bigger im going with him.

  16. steve

    August 21, 2009 at 9:37 am

    Wow didnt spellcheck it take what you can read out of it :)

  17. whodini

    August 21, 2009 at 11:22 am

    sounds like pre fight hype

  18. zack

    August 21, 2009 at 11:41 am

    Sorry to get off topic. But, I have just heard that BJ Penn and Diego Sanchez will be fight for the Lightweight Championship at UFC 105.

    I predict BJ to win…

  19. Kash

    August 21, 2009 at 11:48 am

    I agree. A day or so ago it was "Carwin honored to fight Lesnar" now it's "Carwin hates Lesnar." Damn, reporters can spin it any way they want as long as they get you to say the right things. Either way it's going to be a good ass fight.

  20. Tim

    August 21, 2009 at 11:59 am

    If your going to pick off of weigh ins…just compare a side by side pick of each fighters last wiegh ins…look at carwins last wiegh in flexing which is a close up shot and then look at lesnar ufc 100 wiegh in which is a far shot away and you will see how much larger Lesnar really looks, Carwin is 6'2 258 at weigh ins and Lesnar is 6'3 265 at weigh ins. If you think Carwin is bigger you got real problems. Yes Carwin said he hates lesnar due to his antics etc..and how he needs to earn respect like i have…wait when did Carwin earn anyones respect???

    All i know is when you trash talk and tell the world you hate Brock Lesnar bla bla bla…usually you end up wtih a fucked up face and some broken facial bones and a headache that will last for weeks later. You might want to think again Carwin about bad mouthing the freak of nature Brock Lesnar.

  21. Kash

    August 21, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    I guess thats how you get a title fight, by talking shit. But truthfully I want to see how Lesnar does against a bigger opponent. He won't be able to throw Carwin around like he did Mir.

  22. Tim

    August 21, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    I dont know about that sure he wont ragdoll Carwin but remember Lesnar was known for his takedowns and slams in College wrestling and not to discredit Carwin but there is just better competion in Div 1 than 2. Bottom line i think this is one of those fights where we really cant say much against the other besides some differeces there abilites are about the same which make for an intersting fight. I have to go with Lesnar in this one just based solely upon his training regime and his overall confidence to get better each fight, its will be intersting to see how this fight unfolds remember Lesnar is so good at takedowns when his opponent are rushing in on him…so i see this fight standing until Carwin gets over aggressive and starts backing lesnar up and right then lesnar will single or double leg takedown on Carwin to the mat and hold him and G&P him into submission. Remember Carwin has never faced the likes of lesnar and vice versa in a MMA enviroment, Carwin fights hunchback style leaning his head out for easy pickings…he got in trouble with Gonzaga, if he does this style with Lesnar he will be in big trouble as Lesnar has a longer reach than Gonzaga at 81 and is way more powerfull too. Carwin wins his fights based solely upon using his size and his ability to rush his opponents and throw bombs, know put that style in with a bigger fighter and overall faster and probably stronger fighter with a bigger reach and who can take you down at will and especially when you running in and backing up a fighter and that sounds like trouble to me as look at the Mir fight, he came rushing in with knees to the face and while they landed Lesnar took him down using Mir's own momentum and even a great wrestler durning that moment can not stop that takedown.

    It will be an intersting fight thats pretty much it.

  23. Tim

    August 21, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    I have heard the winner of the Nog vs Couture fight will fight winner of Cain vs Rothel for number one contendership and will fight the winnder of Lesnar vs Carwin in February 2010.

  24. steve

    August 21, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    Carwin is close to as big Lesnar I am going with Lesnar. I havent seen them next to eachother to compare. If lesnar cant outmuscle Carwin he will lose.

  25. Rubs

    August 22, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    I want Carwin to knock that roiding douche on his ass but I ain't putting money on that. Based on who i want to win Lesnar: -100% Carwin: 200%. Based on who i THINK will win Brock:65% Carwin:35%

  26. Mike

    August 22, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    you only have to look at Brock's body now compared to what it was in WWE. you'll notice that hes kinda fat looking now yet boosts he trains just as hard, even harder.

  27. other derek

    August 23, 2009 at 7:34 am

    brock should just paint his body green…. and we could just call him the incredible hulk

  28. Tim

    August 23, 2009 at 7:44 am

    Obviously some here dont seem to understand that just because a guy is big like Lesnar doesnt mean he roids, wehter or not he ever has that is up to him and has never been proven. FYI Rubs, its illegal to take steriods in MMA they test before the fight and after the fight and each time Lesnar comes clean not to mention they test in college through the NCAA so that mean he never took them during his wrestling career nor MMA. I can tell you this he probably has Taken Anabolic Steroids as in Testosterone supps but i believe in MMA its illegal but alot of other pro athletes take this legal suppliement not to mention you just need to understand that just because someone looks like Lesnar doesnt mean they are on roids or ever used them…i know plenty of natural bodybuilders who have never ever takne steriods who are way bigger than Lesnar, its called supplements and taking the right kinds for you body and working out.

    I just watched the Carwin Gonzaga fight and while Carwin has power Gonzaga took Carwin down with Reletive Ease and he took some punches from Gonzaga which almost put him away and Lesnar is a hell of alot stronger and faster than Gonzaga and knows how to keep someone on the ground, i honestly think that Carwins only chance to win is by KO punch but i think Brock can absord a few of Carwins punches. If carwin fights his same hunchback style as always he will be beaten badly by Lesnar…i mean shit Gonzaga has a 76 reach and he nailed Carwin several times Lesnar has 81 reach so you can just image how much easier it would be to hit Carwin and with more power behind those punches Carwin better be carefull not to mention if you didnt know Carwin was a wrestler you wouldnt believe he was based upon how easily he was taken down by Gonzaga but like i said Carwin has a very bad style of fighting hunchback and leaning his head foward almost past his elbows this makes him easy picking for a mna with any reach let alont 81 and so much easier to be taken down since he is off balanced leaning foward…This should be a great fight but i just dont see Carwin changing anything in his routine and yet i nknow he is unbeaten but he has never faced anyone even closely faced anyone like Lesnar where as Lesnar has faced Couture a very good wrestler sure the wieght difference was there but still Brock knows how to carrry his weight and keep fighters down, i am looking forward to a great fight and a stand up war…lesnar by 1st /2nd round TKO…

  29. Ryan S

    August 23, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    that doesn't mean he does not roid in between fights to boost his training. It depends on the steroid used, but a good amount of roids will leave you with the gains after you stop taking them.

  30. Tim

    August 24, 2009 at 12:38 am

    You obviously do not know anything about Supps or Steriod use, you cant just start taking roids in between training for fights, you have to cycle for 3 months for roids and they stay in your system for years after…sure there are blocking agents but come on use your brains this PRO MMA and the NSAC test are not just your average piss test, they do blood work and hair samples and anything you have taken withing the last 10 years shows up from using hair samples. They test randomly and always before each fight and after each fight so there is no way someone in the UFC MMA could possibly take roids and NOT GET CAUGHT!!! Not to mention one of the main reasons young men before there 40 go bald is from taking steroids and obviously Lesnar has a full and thick head of hair where as Carwin is going bald real bald so i am just saying. Lesnar has always been a big guy its not like he was some skinny dude and all of a sudden got huge, they guy has big bones and if you look at his HS wrestling picks and college you will see this but as i said wether or not he used steroids after College and into his WWE days is beyond me, i have to give him the benefit of the doubt as he has never been caught not tested hot on any test in his career. Not to mention Steroids do not give you athletic ability like Lesnar's you either have it or you dont.

  31. other derek

    August 24, 2009 at 3:08 am

    i think brock is just one of those naturally big freaks and he probably did roid in wwe but i'm pretty sure he's not anymore……..he's just BIG BONED GUYS!!!!!!>……….LOL

  32. roy

    August 24, 2009 at 4:43 am

    no way someone in the UFC MMA could possibly take roids and NOT GET CAUGHT!!!

    they do it all the time, everyone who has been caught roiding thought they would get away with it.i am not saying brock is roiding just that people are doing it and getting away with it. and there is always hgh.

  33. Tim

    August 24, 2009 at 5:14 am

    WTF are you talking about Roy, you say fighters in MMA do it all the time and think they wont get caught??? Um the peple that say that WERE the ones that Got Caught so how the hell do you believe that there are roiders in the UFC/MMA world? Barnett got caught and HE failed a drug test a random test that is done before fights which each fighter is subject to in every fight. Koschcek, Bonner they all got got for steriods recently. The test system works and each fighter is tested weeks before the fight and immediatly after the fight to ensure they are not taking anything illegal and if they are they will be caught.

    Botton line is you can do roids in MMA but you will get caught on your next drug test!!! my point being Lesnar isnt a roider as he would of been caught by now with his several drug tests he has taken over the past 3 years in MMA. Wether he has ever done them is a question only he and God can answer as its not up to us to judge him solely upon how he looks as the guy has always been that big and its not like he doesnt fit his frame if you know what i mean unlike some…alexander, Carwin they all look like they put a suit on per say where as Lesnar looks Natural when you combine bone structure and height into the mix but i could be wrong its just my opinion. But to some it up steriod use in MMA is not tolerated and cheaters and users will get caught. Lesnar isnt on roids until a hot test comes back from the NSAC. Just accept the man for being physically and athleticlly gifted. Again Steriods dont give you athletic ability you either have it or you dont.

  34. roy

    August 24, 2009 at 5:50 am

    no alot of them get away with it, do you think the first time they get caught was the only time they used?no they get away with it but do put themselves at risk for being caught. some try to cycle off some use masking agents and some use hgh. i am not saying all of them do it but alot do. how about all those athletes that admitt to it years after the fact they got away with it, they know how to try to beat the system, it doesn't always work and they get caught then. there is tons of cases to prove this fact.

  35. Tim

    August 24, 2009 at 5:59 am

    Were talking MMA-UFC here not NFL, MLB NBA etc…there is no proof in MMA-UFC that a fighter has gotten away with taking steroids during his UFC career within the last 5 years at least since the NSAC has brought random and mandatory pre and post fight testings. If they have which we all know a bunch that have they are all caught eventually maybe not during those few weeks of traning but i guarentee you either by random, pre or post fight all steroid users have been caught and will be caught within there next fight. There are no fighters still under contract with the UFC that have openly said i took steriods while in the UFC and they never caught me. (again withing the last 5 years since the NSAC have adapted new testing rules and ways of testing.

  36. Ryan S

    August 24, 2009 at 7:31 am

    Of course there is no proof, nobody WANTS to admit they cheated. Is there any proof of steroid use in any sport? Testimonies ARE NOT proof. "You obviously do not know anything about Supps or Steriod use" I can't believe you would even put those two in the same category. Steroids do not show up for years because I know several people who have taken them in the recent past and passed drug tests no problem. It is ridiculous to think that NO ONE gets away with it. It's like saying no one that works for a corporate company smokes weed because they will DEFINATELY ALWAYS get caught. Tim, I'm a personal trainer/kickboxing instructor, so I feel safe saying that I know a thing or two about supplements and steroids. Fuck Tim, it would just completely ruin your life if you found out that Lesnar was not perfect wouldn't it? I can honestly say he doesn't LOOK like the type of guy that takes steroids, meaning he doesn't really display the visual symptoms of it. It is possible to just be big. Then again, like Roy said, it could also be HGH.

  37. roy

    August 24, 2009 at 7:37 am

    tim your wrong, but beleave what you want. every guy that got caught in the ufc thought they would get away with it or they wouldn't have done it, there are still people in the ufc using steroids to this day and will continue to do so. olympians even use steroids and beat there tests. get real.

  38. Tim

    August 24, 2009 at 8:28 am

    No believe what you want, Facts are facts the Nevada and California state Athletic Commision test for every single drug and use the piss test, hair samples and blood work to test and can use either one at any time. Truth you CAN mask steroids or other drugs in a piss test. Fact you CAN NOT MASK them through blood test or hair samples, that is medically proven and just try to tell me i am wrong…go research any fucking lab test company and they will tell you the same thing. Not to mention i have a background in health and fitness/personal training, medical assistant/phlebotomist and labratory technician…so i think i know what the hell i am talking about since in the past i have done lab work on people who were being tested for steroids, cocaine, weed etc. in the state of California.

    I know for a fact that the NSAC tests for all these on MMA fighters and seriously just prove to me not through your words but from facts that MMA-UFC fighters that fight in the states say they have taken steroids in the UFC-MMA and have gotten away with it.

    You cant because based upon your words the fighters never thought they would get caught??? Tell me please with facts when a UFC fighter in the last 5 years told you personnaly or the media that he took steroids through out his UFC career??? you cant because honestly we dont know when they started? how long they have been taking them? but based upon how the NSAC testing goes you cant beat the system through blood test or hair samples. even a urine test is extremely hard to beat with all the new medical counter acting drugs to test against. I mean come on back when i worked in a medical lab for Kaiser, we tested for all sorts of crap but we alsways used counter acting agents to identify other drugs.

    I believe your getting youself confused between Illegal Steroids and Anabolic Steroids because there is a major difference one is legal and one is not and certain anabolics are banned by MMA and other sports. Keep in mind medical prescriptions that are presented to the NSAC before testing and before training are considered other when testing hot but if levels are above the prescription calls for daily use then they can be subject to discplinary actions. Exampl a fighter has prostate problems, certain levels of HGH are prescribed to increase testosterone levels back to normal a fighter decides to increase the daily use and hence when they take their test they are subject to discplinary action if they dont go above theire daily limit they are not dsciplined. HGH is a steroid by the way.

    I didnt want to get to deep into this but since your a personal trainer and all no offense but being a personal trainer doesnt mean your a medical doctor and nether am i but i can tell you this unless you come back and tell me you have the same qualifications i do you dont know shit about drug testing nor steroid use in MMA. Bottom line is fighters who take steroids get caught and steroids /drugs stay in your system for years maybe not through a piss test but for surely blood and hair sample test they do, and wether or not the NSAC chooses which test method i dont know but all i know is they dont say the result of the urine test were….they just say pre and post fight drug testing results were….So believe what you want but i do know Steroid users get caught all the time and as of right now Lesnar is not on steroids and no i wont be all but hurt if Lesnar comes up with a hot test for them either but i seriously seriously doubt it based soley upon the testing process and the fact that he is naturally big boned and he fits his physique where as Carwin and alot of other fighers look unnatural like they built there bodies. Also if you really care to research which i dont think you dont go back to pics of lesnar HS wrestling days and his college days and you will see the guy always wrested at HWGHT even in HS and always looked the same, wether or not he took steroids during his WWE days i dont know but suposidly they had a wellness policy in place back then to randomly test but who knows, i am not doubting it am merely saying based upon facts and history Lesnar isnt currently on steroids. But it doesnt matter because you all will think that because someone takes steroids they are going to gain insane amounts of muscle…and yes i realize that certain steroids do certain things but bottom line is Steroids do not provide you with Athletic abiltiy you either have it or you dont and thats my point.

  39. Tim

    August 24, 2009 at 8:40 am

    Damn, sorry the long post i just had to set some facts straight.

    Back to the post, Carwin hates Lesnar solely upon the fact he doesnt like his antics and his popularity, Carwin is Jealous and now gets the chance due to Lesnar saying he wants to fight with the next 3 months so Dana was forced to pick between him and Cain where obviously Carwin makes more sense as he is similiar to Lesnar and is unbeaten. We will see what transpires come UFC 106.

  40. roy

    August 24, 2009 at 9:04 am

    i didn't even read your post to long and still not true, if you think there test is fool proof your mistaken, i will tell you again look at the olympians that get past those tests.and just because your a health and fitness/personal training, medical assistant/phlebotomist and labratory technician dosn't mean you know anything about steroids as it is obvious in your post. i have a ton of more experince in those fields and i know i am no expert on the matter but know better than you.

  41. roy

    August 24, 2009 at 9:08 am

    ps. i said nothing about lesnar and would never accuse some one of roiding that has not had a dirty test so i hope your not getting your feelings hurt thinking i am talking about him i am just saying in general people use roids and get away with it.

    and you said-

    I believe your getting youself confused between Illegal Steroids and Anabolic Steroids because there is a major difference

    anabolic steroids are illegal.

  42. Ryan S

    August 24, 2009 at 10:25 am

    Well, I can admit when I'm wrong. God I wish I could be you Tim.

  43. dane drebin

    August 24, 2009 at 10:53 am

    i think lesnar used steroids in his WWE days just look at the pics of how ripped he was but i highly doubt he does now he wouldnt be able to make the cut to 265. i read somewhere that he lays off on the weight lifting now or he wouldnt be able to make the weight limit.


    August 24, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    wanna talk about who's using what…. take a look at a guy listed at 6'2" who is really closer to 6'1" and has a skull like Barry and 5x hand size….ummm….what were the tell tale signs of hgh use again?! at least brock looks like his parts fit on his frame…..corn fed? yeah. roider? possibly in the past. But if there were an accurate and reliable test for hgh right now….BET your boy carwin & his sour grapes would come up p+o+s+i+t+i+v+e!

  45. Tim

    August 24, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    Again Roy your mistaken we are talking NSAC and CSAC not the olympics which test under the IOC. Yes even olympians get tested and thye make take steroids but it takes weeks for test results to come back to the IOC, thats why they always come back and take medals away from people who come back with postive tests. It happens all the time just as in MMA they randomly test, pre fight tiest and post fight test and relatively soon after the fight they release test results and if postives come up they enforce the rules.

    I will admit your right with the anabolic steroids they are illegal i guess i got confused with using HGH and testosterone for prescribed medical reasons. My bad Roy…but i do know alot about testing as i have physically done lab tests for years for various cases not recently for the last 4 years but in the past and i can assume that back than we had pretty advanced testing ways so current date i can assume they are even more advanced. Bottom line your right fighters may take steroids and not get caught but when they take a test they will get caught.

    No Roy i wasnt saying you accuse lesnar of taking steroids i want to make this a fact you did not.

    Roy we have mutually have had our differences and our agreements but for two people who work or have worked in the fitness/medical field instead of battling eachother why dont we try and use eachother facts as we both have them as you know i have stated facts you may not agree with but there facts and vice versa.

    I will agree to disagree but agree with the simple and broad statment that fighters take steroids and may or may not get caught at that given time.

    I honestly do not think Lesnar has ever taken roids his body structure fits him if you know what i mean, all you fitness freaks will know what i mean. He looks natural if that makes sense where as you can tell some people are not natural which can be a broad statment in itself and may or may not be true fact is this as far as we, the UFC and the MMA world knows Lesnar has never taken steroids and until he comes up dirty for steroids we have to give him the benfit of the doubt but again Steroids do not give you athletic ability you either are born with it or your not. Lesnar was really into wieghtlifting in the WWE due to the physical appearance and entertainment necessary to look that way. He was over 300lbs in WWE so obviously when you make a 20 plus wieght cut your going to loose size….so that should explain lesnars size differen from his WWE days to now…look back at his college wrestling picks he look pretty much the same but a bit bigger overall he was way more cut in college. Lesnar trains for strength and conditioning not weighlifting and there is a huge huge difference from using dumbell curls to using kettle bells and rope climbs to lat pulldowns and revers rows with a bar to revers rows with a rope with your feet elevated using your body weight…those excercises build strength and conditioning there not one planed excercises like weighlifting is there multi planed and multiple muscles are involved in each excersise. Sorry to ramble just adding some info…

    I can admit when i am wrong and mistaken on something Roy corrected me on some things.

    With that said Lesnar should win…but wouldnt be surprised if Carwin won either.

  46. Tim

    August 24, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    AFRAIDOR MILLIONERKO, your right on man and that was one of my points with HGH use he doesnt look like he fits his frame where as Lesnar does. Steroids dont buld your frame base they build on top of it.

  47. Tim

    August 24, 2009 at 12:36 pm

    I agree with hthe rankings…

  48. Tim

    August 24, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    Oh shit sorry wrong topic….

  49. Tim

    August 25, 2009 at 12:48 am

    LOL bryan…..why do some people have to stoop to such low levels…why would you even feel the need to say such stupid shit…you dont know me and i dont know you so do this site a favor and keep your rude and stupid comments out of here there is no need to stoop to such levels here. Grow up.

  50. Tim

    August 25, 2009 at 5:32 am

    Bryan, say what you want and even try to pretend to be me and post stupid and low class crap on other posts. As i said you dont know me and i dont know you so keep the low class stupid shit out of here.

    Obviously Bryan you know a bit to much about whats borderline homo.

    Why do you have to stoop to such low levels i dont even know you nor care to fucking no you so feel free as you are to post stupid crap and immitate others here as you must only becuase this is your sick sexual passion of being able to write and think what you want becuase no one can physically beat your ass here.

    Your probably some loser HS kid anyways, just do us all a favor here and stop with the stupid comments.

  51. Tim

    August 25, 2009 at 7:09 am

    Thanks CAGE for handling this.

  52. Ryan S

    August 25, 2009 at 8:52 am

    Whoa, what did this guy say that was so bad? I have seen some bad shit posted here, but never something that got erased.

  53. Killah Hillz

    August 25, 2009 at 9:20 am

    LOL…glad to see someone else on this site gets worse treatment than I have been getting. For the record, none of that was me. I say Fuck You to your face. haha. At least give me credit for that.

    Anyways…..on subject…..I don't think anyone out there can beat Lesnar RIGHT NOW…as long as Lesnar fights his fight, and doesn't try to fight other people's. Fedor doesn't count, because that will never happen.

  54. Tim

    August 29, 2009 at 10:52 am

    Seriously someone has to really stoop this low again??? once again the above comment was not by the real Tim. This is a perfect example of pussy when you see one, someone who will talk the talk and do everything possible to make someone else lool stupid but in the end this is just a fucking internet site so hold your pussy tight cause this is the closest your going to get to being a real man.

    Stop with the BS comments no one on this site cares for jack asses like you, grow the fuck up and stop with the BS comments already, there is no need for this shit here whoever you are.

    GROW UP!!! but you wont because your a fucking pussy probably some skinny or fat peice of shit who gets off on these internet sites.

    Earn some respect and dont trash talk behind comments and dont act like your someone else on this site, your just fucking immature and you get off on knowing there isnt much anyone can do about it but have CAGE delete your comments.

    So for everyone else who knows the real Tim, sorry for having this piece of shit jack ass wasting space on here.

    Now go fuck yourself…

  55. Tim

    August 29, 2009 at 11:01 am

    Grow the fuck up already!!!! no one fucking cares about you.

  56. Tim

    August 29, 2009 at 11:13 am

    Stop this fucking BS and grow up already, GO GET A FUCKING LIFE, fake tim, chester and other names you have used. I am using my mobile device as i am in HB playing beach volleyball with my wife and friends. Seriously grow the fuck up and stop putting this BS on here about me….

  57. Tim

    August 29, 2009 at 11:33 am

    Do what you want and continue to degrade the real Tim's name, your full of shit and your a jack ass, props to you for being able to pull this shit off on a fucking internet site…yeah for you dipshit you such a real man..real men walk the walk but i guess all you can do is talk the talk. You will get yours, your time will come. Your obviously not a christian and your going to hell anyways so good luck.

  58. Tim

    August 29, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Thank you CAGETODAY for deleting those unreal comments, hopefully now we wont have any more posers on this site.

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