Fedor Greatest Heavyweight Of All Time?

Fedor Greatest Heavyweight Of All Time?

This video poses the question, Is Fedor Emelianenko the greatest heavyweight fighter of all time? He is 7-0 against former and current UFC champions.

Andrei Arlovski, Tim Sylvia, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman …. who else?

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  1. tom

    January 27, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    Amir Sadollah is out of the UFN wtf this is he 2 fight to pull out like wtf

  2. Shogun of Harlem

    January 28, 2009 at 12:09 am

    Gracie is the best i have to laugh. Let all see his record compared to Fedors

    Fedors record

    Win Andrei Arlovski KO (Punch) Affliction – Day of Reckoning 1/24/2009 1 3:14

    Win Tim Sylvia Submission (Rear-Naked Choke) Affliction – Banned 7/19/2008 1 0:36

    Win Hong Man Choi Submission (Armbar) Yarennoka – New Years Eve 2007 12/31/2007 1 1:54

    Win Matt Lindland Submission (Armbar) Bodog Fight – Clash of the Nations 4/14/2007 1 2:58

    Win Mark Hunt Submission (Kimura) PRIDE – Shockwave 2006 12/31/2006 1 8:16

    Win Mark Coleman Submission (Armbar) PRIDE 32 – The Real Deal 10/21/2006 2 1:15

    Win Wagner da Conceicao Martins Submission (Punches) PRIDE – Shockwave 2005 12/31/2005 1 0:26

    Win Mirko Filipovic Decision (Unaminous) PRIDE – Final Conflict 2005 8/28/2005 3 5:00

    Win Tsuyoshi Kohsaka TKO (Doctor Stoppage) PRIDE – Bushido 6 4/3/2005 1 10:00

    Win Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE – Shockwave 2004 12/31/2004 3 5:00

    NC Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira No Contest – Accidental Cut PRIDE – Final Conflict 2004 8/15/2004 1 3:52

    Win Naoya Ogawa Submission (Armbar) PRIDE – Final Conflict 2004 8/15/2004 1 0:54

    Win Kevin Randleman Submission (Kimura) PRIDE – Critical Countdown 2004 6/20/2004 1 1:33

    Win Mark Coleman Submission (Armbar) PRIDE – Total Elimination 2004 4/25/2004 1 2:11

    Win Yuji Nagata TKO (Punches) Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye 2003 – Inoki Festival 12/31/2003 1 1:02

    Win Gary Goodridge TKO (Soccer Kicks and Punches) PRIDE – Total Elimination 2003 8/10/2003 1 1:09

    Win Kazuyuki Fujita Submission (Rear Naked Choke) PRIDE 26 – Bad to the Bone 6/8/2003 1 4:17

    Win Egidijus Valavicius Submission (Kimura) Rings Lithuania – Bushido Rings 7: Adrenalinas 4/5/2003 2 1:13

    Win Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE 25 – Body Blow 3/16/2003 3 5:00

    Win Heath Herring TKO (Cut) PRIDE 23 – Championship Chaos 2 11/24/2002 1 10:00

    Win Semmy Schilt Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE 21 – Demolition 6/23/2002 3 5:00

    Win Chris Haseman TKO (Punches) Rings – World Title Series Grand Final 2/15/2002 1 2:50

    Win Lee Hasdell Submission (Guillotine Choke) Rings – World Title Series 5 12/21/2001 1 4:10

    Win Ryushi Yanagisawa Decision (Unanimous) Rings – World Title Series 4 10/20/2001 3 5:00

    Win Renato Sobral Decision (Unanimous) Rings – 10th Anniversary 8/11/2001 2 5:00

    Win Kerry Schall Submission (Armbar) Rings – World Title Series 1 4/20/2001 1 1:47

    Win Mihail Apostolov Submission (Rear Naked Choke) Rings Russia – Russia vs Bulgaria 4/6/2001 1 1:03

    Loss Tsuyoshi Kohsaka TKO (Cut) Rings – King of Kings 2000 Block B 12/22/2000 1 0:17

    Win Ricardo Arona Decision (Unanimous) Rings – King of Kings 2000 Block B 12/22/2000 3 5:00

    Win Hiroya Takada KO (Punches) Rings – Battle Genesis Vol. 6 9/5/2000 1 0:12

    Win Levon Lagvilava Submission (Rear-Naked Choke) Rings – Russia vs Georgia 8/16/2000 1 7:24

    Gracies record

    Win Kazushi Sakuraba Decision (Unanimous) K-1 HERO's – Dynamite!! USA 6/2/2007 3 5:00

    Loss Matt Hughes TKO (Punches) UFC 60 – Hughes vs. Gracie 5/27/2006 1 4:39

    Draw Hideo Tokoro Draw K-1 – Premium 2005 Dynamite!! 12/31/2005 2 10:00

    Win Chad Rowan Submission (Wrist Lock) K-1 – Premium 2004 Dynamite!! 12/31/2004 1 2:13

    Draw Hidehiko Yoshida Draw PRIDE – Shockwave 2003 12/31/2003 2 10:00

    Loss Kazushi Sakuraba TKO (Corner Stoppage) PRIDE Grand Prix 2000 – Finals 5/1/2000 6 15:00

    Win Nobuhiko Takada Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE Grand Prix 2000 – Opening Round 1/30/2000 1 15:00

    Draw Ken Shamrock Draw UFC 5 – The Return of the Beast 4/7/1995 1 36:00

    Win Dan Severn Submission (Triangle Choke) UFC 4 – Revenge of the Warriors 12/16/1994 1 15:49

    Win Keith Hackney Submission (Armlock) UFC 4 – Revenge of the Warriors 12/16/1994 1 5:32

    Win Ron van Clief Submission (Rear Naked Choke) UFC 4 – Revenge of the Warriors 12/16/1994 1 3:59

    Loss Harold Howard TKO (Towel Thrown at Start of Match) UFC 3 – The American Dream 9/9/1994 1 0:00

    Win Kimo Leopoldo Submission (Armlock) UFC 3 – The American Dream 9/9/1994 1 4:40

    Win Patrick Smith Submission (Strikes) UFC 2 – No Way Out 3/11/1994 1 1:17

    Win Remco Pardoel Submission (Lapel Choke) UFC 2 – No Way Out 3/11/1994 1 1:31

    Win Jason Delucia Submission (Armlock) UFC 2 – No Way Out 3/11/1994 1 1:07

    Win Minoki Ichihara Submission (Lapel Choke) UFC 2 – No Way Out 3/11/1994 1 5:08

    Win Gerard Gordeau Submission (Rear Naked Choke) UFC 1 – The Beginning 11/12/1993 1 1:44

    Win Ken Shamrock Submission (Rear Naked Choke) UFC 1 – The Beginning 11/12/1993 1 0:57

    Win Art Jimmerson Submission UFC 1 – The Beginning 11/12/1993 1 2:11

  3. David

    January 28, 2009 at 1:41 am

    Gracie was good for his time? The guy revolutionized the sport. He changed MMA and put BJJ on the map. To survive in MMA, you must know how to defend submissions. After Fedor is retired, what can you say he brought to the sport? Some good matches here and there and he was great in his time, but he didn't make any changes to MMA. You can sit there and talk all day about records but it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, it's what you brought to the sport. Even if you look at Gracie's record it's still stellar. Remember that this guy fought in tournaments and one loss was due to an injury in the previous fight. The next loss, was an unlimited round bout in which he fought for 90 minutes. 90 minutes man! And yeah he did lose to Matt Hughes and there's no excuse for that. For those of you who don't take any type of martial arts, you really can't appreciate what he has done. I thought the style I was taking was the best until Gracie put BJJ on the map. He shook up the world of martial arts and if you didn't take martial arts at the time, you wouldn't know what I'm talking about. The guy started a legacy and he will be talked about more than any other fighter in the history of MMA. Even now, a gracie trained fighter gets a lot of props and respect even before stepping into the ring and we have seen a lot of good gracie BJJ fighters.

    Sorry guys, but your Fedor high is really clouding your minds or maybe we just think differently. Look, I like Fedor and I give respect when it's due but some of you guys are so high that you choose to turn the other cheek when something can hurt Fedor's reputation. Some of you are so biased that your judgement is off, at least in my opinion. I tell you that Gracie is the best fighter of all time because he took MMA to an all new level. And you come back with records. After Fedor retires, do you think everyone is gonna make it essential to defend against sambo or even fear sambo?

    Maybe we just think differently. To me, Gracie will always be the best because of how he affected my life and changed my way of thinking in martial arts. For some of you, Fedor may have changed your life by winning everytime you cheered for him. Either way, you won't be able to change my mind.

    It also annoys me that you guys are hardcore Fedor fans that you write off other Fedor fans like Tim and me. Tim has repeatedly posted that he is a Fedor fan but he's trying to point out some things that Hardcore Fedor fans choose not to see. So save everyone some headache and look things from an unbiased perspective. That doesn't mean that you can't show off your fanhood but don't look stupid doing it

  4. roy

    January 28, 2009 at 2:11 am

    daivd, garcie is a legend and a pioneer in the sport and was the best of his time but the best ever is fedor and its not fedor fans saying this its just about ever fighter and everyone involved in the sport watch the video, do you think all the experts are wrong?

  5. Chris

    January 28, 2009 at 2:42 am

    From watching both Affliction and UFC fighters, as much as I think Fedor is the top right now, I do not believe he is unbeatable.

    Don't get me wrong, the dude is sick in his calm demeanor in his fights and having come form years of full contact martial arts experience..that is half the game right there.

    AA got over zealous and got KTFO for it. Did not keep his head and continue to pepper Fedor with punches. The kick did hurt Fedor but I don't think the punches did (as much anyways). The flying knee…come on Andrei..you deserved to get your head smashed for that mistake.

    Fedor for me, is the top HW. The great thing about this sport is that strange things can happen in ANY fight. But keeping your head and mind calm during a fight helps reduce stupid mistakes.

    I will not shout out Fedor will smash all, but I would like to see him take on the other UFC HWs whether to humble them or to finally show everyone, UFC / Fedor fans how things stack in the HW rankings finally would be cool.

    Every fighter has a weakness, it is the true champion who knows how to take advantage of it to win.

  6. roy

    January 28, 2009 at 2:47 am

    everyone is beatable he is just the least beatable

  7. Tim

    January 28, 2009 at 5:17 am

    Steve, Dude i am not against Fedor being the best HGHWT, obviously you didnt read my posts cause you would of read that i said many times that Fedor is the best Today….and i agree Gracie was the best of his time and is a legend.

  8. Tim

    January 28, 2009 at 5:21 am

    Thanks David…

  9. Tim

    January 28, 2009 at 5:43 am

    Roy i agree i couldnt have said it better myself…and David i understand where your coming from as the only thing Fedor has given to MMA is his unique ability to such a dominant force but ultimetly he hasnt truly given anything to the sport such as the likes of Gracie, Severn, Shamrock etc… the founding fathers of MMA…but than again its not far to compare them as they created the MMA faction and laid the basics for what it is today and fighters like Fedor are using that to their advantage and grwoing with the sport.

    on another note i would like to see a rematch of Fedor and AA due to the fact that until that knee which was not in AA game plan per his own comments, he had a great chance of beating Fedor and if that knee was never thrown and Fedor was backed into the corner..what would of happend is the question and MMA fans like me are taking nothing away from Fedor has he beat AA convincingly but its intriguining to see what would of happend if AA stayed wiht his game plan…thats all i am saying in that regard….as its not like he beat AA in 36 seconds where as nobody would care to see that rematch…3mintutes or not AA was haning with him and made a mistake and got caught…there are question to remain and with questions come rematches….

  10. roy

    January 28, 2009 at 6:02 am

    than he should rematch cro cop , fujita ,arona,babalu because they all gave him a better fight than aa.i see what you are saying and i would like to see a rematch with aa as well but shcilt gave him a way harder fight than aa and so what if aa dominated him for 2 rounds and got knocked out. there is no what ifs only what happened what if aa was winning so fedor took him to the ground and killed him.theres not much question in this fight i have rewatched it numerus times and alot of those shots did not really land and the front push kick did no damage aa was winning the stand up but not by alot and did no real damage at all.

  11. T.R.

    January 28, 2009 at 6:16 am

    I think that shoney carter is the best pound for pound fighter in the world.

    liten up guys. I'm a fedor fan but he will get beat one of these days.

  12. Tim

    January 28, 2009 at 6:26 am

    Dude it was just a suggestion…i woudnt mind seeing AA vs Fedor 2 thats all. Fedor beat him bottom line, my point is i wouldnt mind seeing them fight again as i think AA was onto something…thats all.

  13. roy

    January 28, 2009 at 6:40 am

    no i get i would like to see it as well, but there all on to something intell they lose.

  14. STEVEO

    January 28, 2009 at 6:52 am

    in fairness above when comparing gracie and fedor, when is the last time fedor faught more than once in one night? against anyone regardless or style or training wiht no prep time on your opponent. Well Gracie did all that, Im not saying fedors' not a great fighter, but its two different animals. Keep in mind the rules have changed quite a bit since gracie was in his prime as well. cage grabbing, kicking in the head was legal and werent the first few ufcs bare knuckle? been a while since ive seen them.

  15. roy

    January 28, 2009 at 7:04 am

    it is amazing what garcia did steveo, but half those guys he fought where not even athletes and they had more to fear not knowing his style than him not knowing theres.it is not even the same thing those where fights this is now a sport alot of fighters today would never even enter a tournement like that props to gracie but there is no point in comparing the two.

  16. STEVEO

    January 28, 2009 at 7:13 am

    personally i would like to see the ufc go back and maybe do a tournament next time a belt opens up or something maybe the GP like pride used to do. their are plenty of good fighters out there that they could do it. I would love to see it.

  17. fedor24

    January 28, 2009 at 8:11 am

    Dave and Tim are both Fedor fans. He is not there favorite but they enjoy watching him fight. The one thing I think Fedor will be remembered for over time is how he combined his mma skills. He is the best "chain" fighter in mma. Gracie was an innovator only because he applied a style of fighting most of his competition had never seen before. Yes he did introduce bjj to the mma world but I was around when the Gracies were on the top. The refused to train americans in bjj. They kept as much of their knowledge hidden as possible to continue their dominance. They were not excactly the benevolent providers of bjj tactics that they are being credited with now. Royce had a great run. On his best day he could not hang with any of the top talent now. He had NO standup. Give him credit for helping to shape the sport at the very beginning but he is not the best fighter of all time. Fedor is a man before his time. Like Jack Johnson in boxing he was so much better at everything that he dominated. fedor's is very good at every aspect of mma. His power is top level. His speed is very fast for a heavy. His subs and sub defense are top level. his takedowns and takedown defense are elite. His conditioning is superior every time out. His training is old school tough and his mental control is computer like. He is the first guy to put ALL the great mma skills together with equal competence and win every fight he is put in over a very long period of time. No other heavy has his skills or his natural ability. That said he will lose one day. Until that day comes, I can't really give any credence to the folks who think he is overrated. After he loses we will see what happens in his following bouts. The Fedor haters give all the other contenders credit for losing and no credit fedor winning. Most of the top fighters out there consider him the best mma fighter regardless of division in the world. These are guys that actually fight for a living. I would love to see a heavyweight tournament involving the best 8 heavys in the world. Just ask Dana to make it happen.

  18. David

    January 28, 2009 at 8:36 am

    I agree with what you are all saying. I don't have a problem with people feeling that Fedor is the best of all time. Like roy said, you can't compare the two because times were so different. But I wanted to remind everyone what some legends did before Fedor's time. People like Gracie that I truly respect and what he did to revolutionize the sport. In addition, you gotta give him even more creditability because he fought in no weight limit tournaments when he was a buck 70 and in addition you had hardly any rules. But then again, if you say it's not fair to compare the two because the times are so different, then you can't say that someone is the best of all time. Just the best in their time. Now for the title of this post, best HW of all time, Fedor is the best today because they didn't put in weight classes until later and that's a valid discussion.

    But when someone says best of all time, you gotta include it when it dated back to when it all started. You can't just look past one of the legends who changed or pioneered the sport of MMA because one person looks unbeatable right now. When Fedor retires, I will re-evaluate everything and decide if Fedor takes that title (at least in my mind) But being the best of all time has to be about more than winning, and it has to be about more than records because records don't tell you everything.

    And yes roy, I do think the experts are wrong because being the best of all time is just a matter of opinion. The experts just get paid to do it. If you've ever played any fantasy sports, you would know the experts are wrong 50% of the time, so just because they are experts, doesn't mean that they should decide for you. In the end you decide for yourself.

    I'm not a firm believer in getting a rematch right after a loss. You need to earn another shot. In AA's case, I can see how it's valid discussion because Barnett wasn't impressive, but it doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve a title shot. IMO, give Barnett the shot, and if he loses, give AA another shot if theres not another contender in Affliction. However, if you got mmamania.com there's a post there that suggests Affliction hasn't been doing well as far as sales and may have to shut down but who knows. Hopefully it'll be able to pull through

  19. David

    January 28, 2009 at 8:50 am

    Fedor24, I see what you are saying but you can't simply say that if you dropped Gracie into the sport today that he wouldn't hang, because times are different. The sport has evolved and surpassed the skills of any of the pioneers. I'm sure most fighters today watched these pioneers compete and implemented the ground game into their style at an early age. If Royce was put in that same position where he was still young, training, and saw that you needed stand up because fighters now had superb takedown defense, then who's to say that he wouldn't have learned the stand up game? It's not fair to say Royce wouldn't have any shot against the fighters today because times were different and the way you prepare for a fight is different.

    But that's all I wanted to say about the best of all time discussion so thanks for listening

  20. roy

    January 28, 2009 at 9:07 am

    good post david i see what your saying, it is a matter of opinion just like p4p to me he is but there are other great fighters worth mentioning up there with him.

  21. steve

    January 28, 2009 at 10:54 am

    u guys bring up fighting in tournaments but do u realize that it is totally different these days. U cant just fight 3 fights now a days. It is much harder to win just one fight now a days. Back when gracie fought he used technique that others didnt know about. U cant do that these days. Take the old gracie and put him in a tournament with the top guys today in any weight class and he loses. Tim sorry if I jumped all over u but from what i got from ur coment was like fedor was losing and the next fight would be closer and I thought u were kinda putting Fedors performance down. b/c Anderson Silva has lost a couple of rounds and ppl still think he is unbeatable just about. But when fedor is even losing half of a round or even maybe losing 1 minute he wasnt doing good. I just think that the Fedor haters will look for anything to talk crap about him. Not saying ur a hater if u say ur not. I dont know what u think just explaining how I thought u came across to me. Gracie is the BEST pioneer of the sport not best fighter.

  22. STEVEO

    January 28, 2009 at 11:09 am

    im not saying they would have to fight the tournament all in one day spread it out over a couple of events, have alternates, and do something a little different, imagine if they could have a tournament at lhw right now the names in there. Liddell, Wandi, Rashad, Rampage, Machiada, T Silva, Maybe da spider, forrest and throw in a few others and that would be awesome to watch, and that would draw rating like a mofo knowing you are going to get to watch fighst taht matter rather than watch 4 fights with guys i could care less about. i think it would be awesome

  23. kom34

    January 28, 2009 at 11:28 am

    steveo what your describing is a good idea and thats what they are doing in DREAM. they fight tournament style with about 2-3 months in between events. it would be good if the ufc had Liddell/Rua and Rampage/Jardine in a 4 way tournament for a shot at the title. but you know dana, he'll probably give it to chuck or rampage right away if they win.

  24. fedor24

    January 28, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    UFC tournaments. It's impossible to do stateside. No athletic commission would sanction it. Maybe in Japan?? Pride did several grandprixs and K1 has tournaments regularly. Losing the tournament format made the UFC palatable to the powers that be in the states. They wanted rules as close to boxing as possible. It would be awesome to see though.

  25. Businessman

    January 28, 2009 at 3:21 pm

    All you guys are debating and not realizing the common sense herte.

    1. Fedor has to be consired the best of all time (for now) and has to be considered the best p4p. While he may have been in danger or a fight may have gone the distance, that doesn't matter. he is human and is not going to knock everyone out in the first minute. But the fact is that he has only 1 loss versus 30 wins. And the one loss should not have been a loss, it should have been a no-contest due to an accidental elbow. I am a fan of AA and was rooting for him but how could anyone say he was winning upt to the point he got knockout???It is not like he took him down, attempted a submission, or stuck him with a punch or kick hard. All he did was he was more active…does that mean that he was winning? What exaxtly did he do that had him winning at that point? As far as him getting some tomato cans, everyone does here and there. Are you gonna tell me that even during Chuck's great run or Hughes great run, that evry guy they fought was a top notch guy? I do recall Chuch fighting opponents like Vernon White and Jeremy Horn (Jeremy is good and he has a lot of fights but he has never been an MMA champ. he was much better at submission grappling). Hughes fought twinkletoes twice and Joe Riggs??? So even those two great runs where they each defended their titles time and time again, they got some matches with guys that should not be there. In regards to the p4p argument, how many fighters, with at least 25 fights have 1 or no losses…not many. GSP has lost more, BJ Penn has lost more, Da Spider has lost more…He is the man!

    2. Lesnar has only 4 or 5 fights under his belt. he is dangerous and incredibly gifted but he needs to win his next 25 fights before he matched Fedor's record. One thing is to go 4 and 1 in 5 fights…thry going 30 and 1 in 31. That is not easy. And as far as saying that Lesnar or anyone else posses a threat, any fighter poses a threat. Any fighter that steps in the octagon or ring poses a threat. So that is stupid to say that lesnar would pose a threat to Fedor because anyone that steps in the ring does. There have been some major upsets and there will always be.

    3. Royce was not the best fighter of all time but he was truly a pioneer in the sport and the face of BJJ that brought it to the world. He was great then because very few people knew of submissions but he would not be that good today. His ground game was not great. it was just that the others knew nothing about it. He never won any BJJ titles and he got put to sleep in a BJJ match against Carlson Gracie fighter Wallid. Pioneer yes, but greatest of all time, absolutely not. I do acknowledge that he also fought at a time when you fought more than once per night if you won but again, for the most part he fought total nobodys. other ken and maybe but I do hesitate to say the second name Dan Severn , who did he fight in the early UFC, which was most of his fights, that made a career of MMA? No-one. he beat nobodys.

  26. dane drebin

    January 28, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    businessman well said

  27. roy

    January 28, 2009 at 6:00 pm

    case closed

  28. whodini

    January 28, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    that was nice

  29. David

    January 29, 2009 at 2:23 am

    Businessman, very good post and I see what you are saying. But you got to give more credit than that. The fight game is very different from what it is now. You say Royce fought nobodies, but that's because Royce beat them all. You can say that no one knew how to defend it before the first tournament, but he won 2 more on top of that and had to withdraw on the other due to injury. After the first tournament, the secret was out but yet he still won 2 more. In addition, fighters aren't hyped up and marketed the way they are now, it's two different time eras. Fighters now will fight a match every 6 months and have time to train and prepare for each fighter. IMO, it was harder for Royce to win those tournaments because after the first, everyone knew him but he didn't know anyone else, . Everyone knew what he was gonna go in there and do, but yet they still couldn't stop the guy. It doesn't matter if he won or didn't win any BJJ titles, we are talking about MMA. If they thought they were superior, why didn't they enter the octagon? For example, Fedor has been the Sambo champ many times except for his loss last year but that doesn't blemish his MMA record. Not to mention he was in a no weight limit tournament in one night. That means nothing to someone like Fedor but for a welterweight?

    Look, I understand what you are saying, that he is a great pioneer but absolutely not the best of all time. I'm saying give him more credit than that. You keep going back and telling me that if you were to to drop him in there now, he would lose. Of course, because the game has evolved and Gracie had a lot to do with that. No one will ever do what he did by winning those tournaments in one night more than one time in his career. To win 3 of 4 MMA tournaments where you can punch each other in the stones is just insane. And he lost the other tournament due to an injury in a previous fight. I'm not saying that it's not impossible to do that today. If anyone has a good chance, it's Fedor because he won the Pride tournament and the rules were different and he didn't have to fight it all in one night. Big props to him tho for winning. But that all ends up in the what if category and I don't deal with what if's.

    Like I said, it's a matter of your own opinion. But in my mind, what Gracie brought to the world of MMA can never be matched. But to win those tournaments in that fashion, with a big target on your back, with those rules and lack of weight limits, is truly rare and we may never see it happen again.

  30. STEVEO

    January 29, 2009 at 2:25 am

    lesnar is green but he isnt fighting a japanese speed bump every other fight either. He has been in the ring with Mir, Herring, and Couture. Two ex heavyweight champs and one guy that will fight anyone without hesitation, the only way to solve it is for fedor to come to the ufc and test the waters against the current crop of guys. they will all lose eventually, Sliva, Fedor, Lesnar, Penn, GSP, you cant be champ forever there is always a forrest griffin or matt serra out there waiting to do the unthinkable and with the new generation of fighters being mostly well rounded the divisions will only get tougher. Soon I think the days of long tenured champs will be behind us.

  31. David

    January 29, 2009 at 2:32 am

    I forgot to respond to your portion of the Fedor and AA fight. You say that you didn't know how AA was winning the fight before the knockout? The scoring is different for every judge but up until the knockout, AA was winning the round. He landed more punches, cleaner strikes, and was the aggressor. He doesn't have to score takedowns or attempt submissions to be winning the fight. Some judges will score on total damage, and AA never once got caught with a clean hit to where it set him back but Fedor did back up after a few of AA's shots. And yes, he did strike him in the head a few times to push Fedor back and although Fedor did get some hits in before the knockout, it was easy to see that AA was winning the fight. What i'm saying is, if the bell had rung before the knockout, you couldn't say that you would give that round to Fedor.

  32. roy

    January 29, 2009 at 2:59 am

    the first couple of ufc there where bums fighting for the most part, david you say after the first one they new what he was doing?how by watching one show they would know bjj?even if the went and trained in bjj after that they would not now enough to beat him and there where alot of fighters out there already japan already had pancrase and vale tudo fights in brazil.there where some tough guys and a few real fighters in those events but more like a tough man comp.

  33. Tim

    January 29, 2009 at 4:47 am

    I agree, steve sorry if you took the comment the wrong way but i was implying that AA before he lost might have been on to something….but we will never know but yes Fedor beat him convingly. There were some great posts after mine that i honestly agree with to an extent.

  34. dane drebin

    January 29, 2009 at 6:12 am

    i would like to see AA get a rematch i dont know if he would win cuz his chin sucks and its a long fight but i think he could put on a better showing and seeing as the only other legit person they ahve for fedor is barnette i think i just might get my wish.

  35. Tim

    January 29, 2009 at 6:57 am

    Thats my point…exactly…thats why i said a rematch….

  36. roy

    January 29, 2009 at 7:50 am

    if they offered aa a rematch right now i bet he would not take it, he is going to box and if he does good there you might not see him in mma for awhile.i think fedor should fight barnett and aa really should fight gilbert or paul get another win under his belt before trying to face fedor again but i see him trying boxing first and in a rematch maybe lasting longer but end up losing again.

  37. Tim

    January 29, 2009 at 8:07 am

    Sounds good i agree no rematch off the bat..is he really pursuing boxing now? that would be great but kinda hard for an MMA guy to adapt and not want to take it to the ground per say but than again AA never did like going to the ground.

  38. dane drebin

    January 29, 2009 at 8:22 am

    did u even see AA's latest interview? he says he wants a rematch as soon as possible. i doubt they will give it to him anytime soon tho since they only put on a paperview once every 5 months and they have said a million times barnette is next in line. maybe sometime next year there will be a rematch. in the interim AA will have plenty of time to box all he wants.

  39. Tim

    January 29, 2009 at 8:27 am

    No i never saw that, i think AA knows he could beat Fedor but as well as we all saw AA knows he got caught and Fedor capitilizes. You know who reminds me of Fedor, urijah Faber…i was watching his fight with Jens pulver on WEC last night and damn he comes right at you hits you hard and sneaks in the submission….

  40. roy

    January 29, 2009 at 9:12 am

    yeah he says he wants the rematch and maybe he does, but his next fight from everything i have heard will be in the boxing ring.

  41. Jez

    January 31, 2009 at 8:33 am

    the only reason he fought nobodies in japan was because he beat every single decent heavyweight outside of the ufc. Herring, schilt, coleman, randleman, cro cop, Nog, hunt. In pride he never lost a single round and ppl can call Hong Man Choi a can or whatever but he put up one of the best fights against the last emperor and looked far more competetive than Tim Sylvia. Anyone who says the arlovski fight was a lucky punch should take a look at chuck liddells career. Sometimes the counter punch strategy is the most effective and everyone knew that arlovski was the more technical striker. Oh and Fedor would destroy Randy in a matter of minutes wherever the fight took place. WAR FEDOR

  42. kensei

    February 6, 2009 at 12:24 am

    I don't think A. silva is the p4p greatest….he keeps on fighting fighters way more smaller and lighter than him. He should be fighting in the light heavyweight division. But fedor is fighting in his natural weight and even fighting fighters heavier than him….i think fedor can fight in the light heavyweight division considering his size and weight.

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