Is Signing Fedor The End Of Strikeforce?

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Updated: August 6, 2009
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UFC President Dana White on Strikeforce and Fedor,

“They have no money, no fighters. They’re a small-town show. Cung Le hasn’t defended the title since like 1997. Josh Thomson hasn’t defended the belt in like two years. Who’s their other champion? Alistair Overeem? He hasn’t defended the belt in like two years. It’s Strike-Farce. It’s a little regional show with no one in it…. [Fedor Emelianenko will] put them out of business. They have no money and no distribution. You know how many people watch their fights? Their last fight [on Showtime cable], 245,000 people watched that fight. That’s nothing…. I offered him a great deal. I guarantee you the Strikeforce deal wasn’t in the same universe with ours. it wasn’t close. They probably didn’t even pay him as much as Affliction was.” [FanHouse]

Dana White comments on Strikeforce at today’s UFC 101 Press Conference. His opinion has some merit, what will signing Fedor Emelianenko cost Strikeforce? Fedor is still relatively unknown to most casual fans. Even if they know whow he is, many have never seen him fight. Its not like I’m anti-Fedor, I’m just pro-Strikeforce, they might be the last real completion for the UFC out their. Competition is good.

30 Comments

  1. Mike

    August 6, 2009 at 7:27 am

    ironic Dana talks about fighters not defeating there belts, yet forgets about Randy who didn't defend for over a year so he invents a new belt.

  2. derek

    August 6, 2009 at 7:28 am

    Mixed feelings about this. StrikeForce has remained pretty low key and has never wanted to challenge UFC in any way. They just put on their own shows, and from what I have heard, have actually done modest in profit. Adding Fedor to their roster won't do anything for Strikeforce, but more importantly, won't do anything for Fedor. Fedor should not be in the top P4P any more. The competition he will face in the next 1-2 years (i.e. Brett Rogers, Alistair Overeem) is small potatoes compared to known fighters like Brock, Shane Carwin, Nog, Couture, Cro Cop, etc.

  3. Mike

    August 6, 2009 at 7:32 am

    i don't get how UFC suddenly got the most amazing fighters in hw?

    3 challenges for Fedor in UFC right now are Wrestlers…. and tbh Heavyweight + American rules = Wrestlers favour. (add cage too)

    Overeem is much improved and tbh is one of the toughest fights for Fedor right now (other than Barnett which may still be an option)

  4. Ryan S

    August 6, 2009 at 7:55 am

    I just try to take everything that Dana White says with a large grain of salt. He is kind of like that kid that you hang out with that exaggerates A LOT and thinks he is the coolest in your group.

  5. john

    August 6, 2009 at 8:12 am

    Yeah, but 99% of what Dana has said in the past has come true. He may be a prick but he's got the business side down.

  6. zack

    August 6, 2009 at 8:20 am

    Dana's right…Strikeforce will be in the MMA graveyard with the others (Affliction, Elite XC, Pride)that have been KO'd by the UFC juggernaut…Where will Fedor run to when it's dead? I don't see him ever going to the UFC.

  7. Ryan S

    August 6, 2009 at 8:20 am

    John, I don't know. Maybe 98%

  8. dane drebin

    August 6, 2009 at 8:35 am

    danas totally right cung le's a shitty champion and should be stripped, josh thomson gets injured every other week, allistair shouldnt even be champ since i cant even remember the last time he even faught in strikeforce. striekforce needs to get their champions to defend their titles. and mike ya randy didnt defend his title for a long time but almost every champion in strikeforce hasnt defended their title in twice as much time so theres really no comparison.

  9. Eric

    August 6, 2009 at 8:38 am

    Wow! Cung Le has not defended his title since March 29, 2008!! wft??

    I like what I have seen from Strikeforce, but they really do need to up their frequency if they want their fighters to be recognized. If a fighter is fighting once every 18 months, can he/she make a living from that?

  10. Logan

    August 6, 2009 at 9:19 am

    Dana sounds like some spoiled ass kid who cant get he wants. I am pretty dam sure by now,Fedor does not want to fight with UFC, plain and simple. Could it be that he doesnt want to fight for that loud mouth bitch? I would love to see him fight Brock and anyone else, and will continue to watch him fight no matter what company he's with. Is Dana so power hungry that he wants all other companies to fail just so he can charge the fans whatever amount he wants just to see a fight. Fuck You Dana White.

  11. AFRAIDOR MILLIONERKO

    August 6, 2009 at 9:24 am

    I like the strikefarce's( I used it first dana!) coker. Even dana has had nothing bad to say about him. Now that they got tied up with Afraidor, though, they probably WILL go the way of EVERY OTHER org who has "co-promoted" with M-1……R.I.P……..And Cung Le is a B-movie action star…not a fighter……but he mos def' did F@#K UP ol' frankie boy!! hahahahahah! That was a funny fight.

  12. Joey

    August 6, 2009 at 10:41 am

    Every strikeforce event is really good, even the no names are good fights. But Dana's right, they don't have superstars or guys who defend their belts. True MMA fans will like Strikeforce, but the majority won't. Fedor is not going to turn it around.

    Where Dana is wrong is that these guys have money. They're going to spend a ton out of pocket before it actually turns a profit because of Fedor, but they have the money to do it.

  13. Businessman

    August 6, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Who knows what will happen…maybe they go out of businees maybe they dont but Dana is just pissed that someone actually said NO! to him. He is such a little bitch. He talks shit about everyone, until you join him. And then, don't even think about leaving because he will back stab you before you are out the door.

    I said it before and the last sentence of the article says it as well "Competition is good". I am not anti-UFC but don't want them to be the only show and have all the good fighters. I want to order my monthly UFC PPV and then fill in the rest of the month with WEC, Strikeforce, Dream, and HDNet. Fedor does not care about glitz and hype nor does he care about his place in history. You guys could call him a pussy all you want, he doesn't give a fuck! And that is what pisses of Dana more than anything. What he does care about is coming and going as he pleases and not signing a 5 five contract that will make him work with Dana Dickhead for about 2 years. I don't blame him. I have had a couple bosses that I could not stand and working for them was not a good feeling.

    Strikeforce is making a lot of noise. They are signing some good fighters. I can't disagree the point of Cung Le, Thompson, and Overeem not defensing their titles, but nonetheless, they have put on good shows and their partnerships with Dream and channels Showtime and HDNet are making them a competitor.

    Strikeforce has an opportunity to challenge the UFC down the road. At this point, they are no where close but they are the strongest org out there other than the UFC. Dana recognizes that, if not, why would he continue to talk shit about them (Fedor and Strikeforce)? Because he sees their potential. He would not even waste his time if he did not see them as a threat.

    Fedor said it to Dana the other and I say it to: FUCK YOU DANA!

    Dana what kind of a fucking name is Dana anyway? Isn't it a girl's name? Fit's perfect because he is a little bitch! I love the UFC fighters and events but can't stand him!

  14. Mac

    August 6, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    Fedor did not say it to Dana, he's got too much class for that.

  15. Businessman

    August 6, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    Mac, he did not say "Fuck You" but he basically said fuck you. You are right he has to much class.

  16. Chip

    August 6, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    I hope Strikeforce goes under and Fedor finally decides to join UFC and Dana wont let him. Not that thats gonna happen because that will be the day…….Fedor fights current competition. Maybe he can wait for an overrated Barnett comes off his roid binge. Fuck Fedor….I cant wait till this is out of the spotlight and the current news goes back to the top fighters in the world. Fuck Fedor and get him out of the P4P category.

  17. Kash

    August 6, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    One thing I'm positive of is that no matter what, Fedor will never fight in the UFC. Fedor made it pretty clear that he doesn't care about fighting there. If Strikeforce went under tomorrow Fedor would just do Sambo tournaments.

  18. other derek

    August 6, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    chip don't waste your time with mike

  19. other derek

    August 6, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    and zack well said…. where will he go?

  20. Dave

    August 6, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    The Abgry Aerobics Instructor is so good for the sport of MMA isn't he? He just can't live and let live with any other organizations. Oh and Chip? You seem like a well balanced guy judgeing from your posts.

  21. Chip

    August 6, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    Also Mike you say UFC doesn’t have the best heavyweights. Name another organization that has better heavyweights. Compare the UFC’s top 5 to any other organization and see what you come up with. Moron

  22. Tim

    August 7, 2009 at 12:50 am

    Why does everyone seem to think that since a fighter is a dominant wrestler that means that fighter sucks???

    Wrestling is the most solid base you can have for any and i mean any sport, it transitions into every sport imaginable when you really get into the technicallites and balance and strength porportions of it all. Wrestler strive well in MMA for one reason their strong and they can take you down at will and keep you down and ground and pound…some may think that is boring or not deserving of being called a MMA fighter because thats mostly what they do in the cage.

    MMA is all about game plans and a fighter is there to win first and if the fighter is a better wrestler or that is there strong point they will incorporate there game plans to that advantage.

    Now with that said i think a in their prime strong and fast wrestler could very well dominate Fedor, imagine if Lesnar and Fedor fought and Lesnar too Fedor down and held him there like he did Mir?? you say it couldnt happen but in the most likely situation it would happen as it would to pretty much any man that fell into that postion.

    I think Fedor's days at fighting top notch competition are over for now, and i agree Fedor could very well put Strikeforce out of bussiness, all i know is this Fedor isnt making much money with them and i hope its only for the co promotion factor and building eachother promotions up and there not forking out money to Fedor like Affliction did.

    Competition is good and i hope it stays that way but honestly as we all know no one will ever really compete with the UFC.

  23. Mike

    August 7, 2009 at 1:01 am

    Tim im sorry but no.

    Wrestling in MMA works because

    A. no needs to face while opponent is downed…. imagine a wrestler missing a takedown and taking a knee to his face…. he'd soon learn not to do that..

    B. its in a cage…. no escape no bouncing past them and no open space.

    Tim

    no one will compete with UFC?

    are you MAD? UFC is only alive because they bought out Pride (pride was better…. in everyway.)

    its just a matter of time till a good org comes round and gives it a real challenge.

  24. Mike

    August 7, 2009 at 1:02 am

    should read *knees

  25. Tim

    August 7, 2009 at 2:20 am

    What the hell are you talking about, first off the knees to a down fighter is illegal meaning lets say a wrestler missing a takedown and the other fighter strikes him with a knee to the face well then that fighter will be disqualified for kneeing a downed opponent.

    Remember having anypart of you body on the ground rules you can not strike to the face.. and when you execute a takedown one of your knees hits the ground and then you scoop up your opponent and bring them to the ground. So what is your POINT???

    I guess i am mad when i say the UFC will never have a real competitor….because when you have a billion dollar company like this and the next org behind it cant even bring in millions let alone make a million in profit its really hard to say that the UFC isnt the most dominant promotion in MMA and that no one will really come close to challenging them.

    Inside look strikforce average paperview buys 200K, UFC's average buys 750K plus the last show did 1.5 Million buys which equals into about 67.5 million dollars and that doesnt even include live gate revenue, sponsorship revenue, etc…sure the UFC has major overhead but at the end of every fight show they are making millions in profit and billions every year.

  26. Tim

    August 7, 2009 at 2:26 am

    So again why do some look at wrestlers as really not a true MMA fighter? Its not called mixed martial arts for no reason? Like i said every sport and every base of mixed martial arts has a wrestling background. Wrestling is the oldest sport known to man. In todays world wrestlers strive big time in MMA and combine that with strength, speed and overall athleticism and even just a bit of other fight techniques and you have yourself a very hard to beat MMA fighter…just imagine if you had a dominant wrestler, with all of those qualites with exceptional boxing, BJJ etc…the man would be basically unbeatable or considered to be and it all comes from his wrestling background as the starting point.

  27. Mike

    August 7, 2009 at 3:10 am

    knee to a downed opponent is illegal as part of sports rules……

    IN AMERICA

    there's a reason that Wrestlers were not as good in Pride as they are in UFC (Rampage to name one)

    all those who had takedown defences or amazing ones in Pride had a fairly bad Pride rep (A.S to name one)

    call me silly but MMA should be any rules except eyepokes and "low blows"

  28. Tim

    August 7, 2009 at 4:27 am

    Yah your stupid then we would revert back to the early UFC days and have no rules which would be call barbaric and basically banned by every state. There has to be rules to protect the fighters.

    Kneeing a down opponent is legal if your throwing them at the body what is illegal is kneeing a fighter in the face when another part of there body is touching the ground.

    Rampage isnt a wrestler…never has been all he did was power bomb his opponetns in pride. When i say wresters i mean they have a legitimate wrestling background as in Lesnar, Lashley, Velasquez, Carwin, Kosceck etc..even GSP isnt considered a wrestler even though he has adapted his game to be actually one the best takedown artists, but that doesnt make you a wrestler because you can take someone down by a single or double leg.

    Takedown defense is key true but i will always bet on the better wrestler 9/10 times for the mere fact that they know how to control their opponent overall.

  29. Mike

    August 7, 2009 at 5:18 am

    I'm sorry but to say Rampage isn't a Wrestler is daft.

    rampage is a Wrestler….. he was going to go to Pro Wrestling till he saw the success of wrestlers in MMA.

    Rules to protect the fighters? its MMA….. Martial Arts were designed to kill people. (during times of war.)

  30. Tim

    August 7, 2009 at 8:26 am

    So your saying you want MMA to be like WARS where fighters Die in battle???

    Your version of MMA is weird and yes your right Rampage was a wrestler, i just read his bio, my bad i didnt know that.

    MMA today is a sport and sports have Rules however you look at it, Wrestler always dominate 9/10 times.

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