Randy Couture Picks Fedor To Beat Brock Lesnar

122 Comments

  1. Henry Fatdick

    November 16, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    I can't watch videos, someone break this down for me.

  2. TIM

    November 16, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    Well Randy looks like shit with Bruises all over his head and a cut on his ear and some swelling over his whole head and eyes but he give Brock props and says he got caught and the Fedor at this point would tear brock up but that he has alot of potential etc….i totally agree at this point Fedor would beat brock but he would still pose a threat to him now but Brock is so young and new to this sport and can only get better and that is scarry.

  3. TIM

    November 16, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    oh and i mean no disrespect to Randy at all the man is a class act.

  4. Ryan S

    November 16, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    I didn't realize Brock caused that much damage. I wonder if Brock's cut over his eye is even bad.

  5. zalbag

    November 16, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    Whats funny and annoying is that on every mma site every time a guy wins a big match, people have to try and shit on his parade and say oh well Fedor would crush him. Its as if people didnt already know that Im really sick of it. On Sherdog they have whole Forums dedicated to dudes making lists of guys who could beat other guys, and some dude actually put Fedor on the list of people who could beat featherweight champ Mike Brown. Are we being serious these people will never fight Lesnar Fedor might might might happen. but these guys who only post about superfights and do shit like this:

    Fedor vs Lesnar

    Lesnar vs Silva

    Couture vs Penn]

    GSP vs Fedor

    Couture and Hong man Choi vs Fedor and Lesnar in doubles tennis

    all that garbage has to stop leave him alone when the phillies won the world series they didnt say : well when the phillies have to play the AL all star team they will get crushed.

  6. TIM

    November 16, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    That was awesome…you are right on..

  7. TIM

    November 16, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    Word is Lesnar got 4 stitches but other than that post fight vids he looks fine…but Couture DAMN he took a beating and those little baby shots as someone stated really did some damage just image if they were Adult shots..LOL seriously some people need to get a life and stop wasting there time thinking of stupid as fights that will never ever happen. Also no matter how good someone is someone will always talk shit on that person…when Lesnar best Randy its now well Fedor would kill Lesnar…lol right now i would say he would beat him but in 3 years fuck NO…lesnar will be nearly unstoppable by then. He will lose of course thats just a given but he will only get better and as long as his drive to succeed and get better is there the sky is the limit for him. He will have a good test next year in either NOG or Mir.

  8. steve

    November 16, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    Ok guys I agree on most of things u r saying but 1 thinkg I dont agree with is that when Tim said 3 years from now if fedor will beat him HELL NO. Sorry Tim but Fedor has too good of hands and submissions. 3 yrs wont make him good even close to as good as Fedor on the ground or standing. But he will be a top heavyweight even then and five almost everyone else a challenge. Lesnar will always be able to be submitted and Randy caught him a few times. So there are still holes in his stand up and all that. Overall I think he is so big and strong that most guys in the UFC just cant handle it. But no matter how much time goes by I dont think he will ever be very solid at BJJ. Whats crazy is fedor is only 32 yrs old and he is possibly and IMO the best mma fighter of all time. But Lesnar is for sure awesome and poses a threat for just about anyone.

  9. dane drebin

    November 16, 2008 at 7:07 pm

    i have to disagree with you steve lesnar poses a threat to EVERYONE

    i dont think he is the best fighter and i dont think he's better than fedor but a man his size, his speed, and his wrestling ability and strength

    he is most definetly a THREAT to anyone on the planet

    he has dropped all of his opponents in the ufc and thats makes him very dangerous even to fedor

  10. steve

    November 16, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    LOL dane im not getting into an arguement about if he poses a threat to everyone in the world or not. Saying he poses a threat to just about anyone is a good thing and I dont think its possible to say he poses a threat to anyone since there are guys that are more athletic stronger and bigger. Sorry bro but he poses a threat to almsot everyone in the world. Nobody can beat up everyone in the world at least in my opinion. That is why I said almost everyone.

  11. derek

    November 16, 2008 at 9:48 pm

    oh please, watch lesnar relinquish the belt if fedor were to sign with the ufc. fedor needs to stop bullshitting around and sign. his legacy won't be solidifed until he does. he has already fought over in renowned pride over in japan… and now he must fight in the UFC over here. i believe fedor will steam roll through andre. arlovski does everything well, but he suffers from a weak chin. fedor likes to throw two hard punches and then clinch. it'll be bad news for andre. once he beats arlovski, who is left in affliction? josh barnett, but then who else? maybe jeff monson? fedor will be done with affliction HW contenders by mid 2009. by then, shane carwin and velazquez should be top contenders. mir, nog, and lesnar should all still be up there. i for one was not impressed with randy's performence. compared to his past two fights, randy could not control the fight in the clinch as he shold have. lesnar will fight winner of nog-mir. loser of nog-mir shold fight randy.

  12. Jake

    November 17, 2008 at 12:52 am

    I'd like to see fedor fighting top guys whoever they are. Not the hong man chois or the zuluzino's ,not the old ass marc colemans or the lower weight classed Linlands. Sure he beat CroCop but ummmm ….so did Kongo and Gonzaga. And his fights with Noguiera were in 2005. Tim Sylvia was a step-up in recent competition. Take that how you will. I think Fedor is a great fighter but I like seeing the best fight the best. There are/were better fighters than those on his record.

    I'd really like to see him fight Barnett. I like the difference in styles and Barnett can take a punch. I'd rather see Fedor fight Lesner than Randy. Randy proves to be knockout prone if hit somewhat cleanly and Fedor hits HARD.

    Lesner has fought Mir, Herring and Couture all in 2008. That's a lot better competition this year than Fedor has fought in the last 3 years.

  13. T.R.

    November 17, 2008 at 3:11 am

    great points jake and derek. If fedor wants to have the greatest legacy then go fight in the octagon. he needs to hurry up and sign before he uses his age as an excuse to not fight as much.

    aa will be more elusive than tim silva. He is also more athletic. Fedor will win but it will be a good fight.

  14. roy

    November 17, 2008 at 4:17 am

    why would he need to go to the ufc? who is there for him to fight? the best hw's are fedor nog barnett and aa, he is about to fight aa he already beat nog 2-3 times and barnett is not with the ufc.

  15. Tim

    November 17, 2008 at 5:01 am

    Roy i have to disagree with you on this one, In order to call yourself the best fighter in the world or in weight class you need to beat every top ranked fighter otherwise its just specualation that your the best but its not official. Fedor hasnt fought anyone good in the last 3 years except for maybe Sylvia and although he is a great fighter and one of the best he still needs to prove his legacy by fighting top notch fighters. Below is a list from MMA news.com of the top HWGHTS in the world. Now Fedor has beaten some of them and if he beats AA that would be a great start to complete dominance. Yes i believe in 3 years Fedor would get beat by Lesnar right now Lesnar would pose a problem for him but i believe Fedor would beat him right now at this stage in Lesnar rookie career but give him 3 more years of training and another 6 fights and i am sure he would beat Fedor. Word is that Brock is equivalent to a purple belt in BJJ at this stage..thats pretty damn good for someone with less than 3 years of MMA training. He is not the best but give him time to devolop into an overall MMA fighter and for sure Lesnar will create a lasting legacy and could be an MMA legend. Now since Lesnar beat Couture does that make him number 5? or hell even top 10.

    HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (up to 265 LBS.)

    1. Fedor Emelianenko

    2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

    3. Andrei Arlovski

    4. Josh Barnett

    5. Randy Couture

    6. Tim Sylvia

    7. Fabricio Werdum

    8. Aleksander Emelianenko

    9. Sergei Kharitonov

    10. Gabriel Gonzaga

  16. Ike

    November 17, 2008 at 5:16 am

    LESNAR IS A BEAST!!! I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIM FIGHT MORE. HE'S A CHAMP WITH FOUR PROFESSIONAL MMA FIGHTS, I THINK THAT IS CRAZY. WE NEED MORE HW FIGHTERS AND MORE COMPETITION. WHAT WOULD BE FUN IS TO SEE TIM SILVA FIGHT LESNAR JUST TO WATCH AN EXPLOSION

  17. T.R.

    November 17, 2008 at 5:31 am

    Fedor going to affliction was a good move. He gets to fight great hw there like tim, aa, and barnett. BUT it shouldn't be his final move is all i'm saying. Is he the best hw right now, sure. But i would love to see him finish his legacy with a title run in the octagon (which is a totally different fighting strategy than a ring, just ask cro-cop and shogun)

  18. roy

    November 17, 2008 at 5:47 am

    tim you proved my point i said why would he come to the ufc most of the fighters on that list are not in the ufc.he is the best already proven.lesnar may be the best one day but he has alot more to prove than fedor.

  19. Tim

    November 17, 2008 at 5:55 am

    Hmm…well i see your point and agree but i dont think FEDOR has ever fought in the octagon which is completly different than fighting in a ring just as T.R said…he may have problems adapting…Lesnar has a long way to go but i am excited to see him grow.

  20. roy

    November 17, 2008 at 6:00 am

    i don't see that anyone has had a problem adapting- rampage, silva, wandy and everone else that came from a ring cro cops problems where not from the cage more mental and shogun fought 1 fight and had no acl it had nothing to do with a cage so the ring vs cage although there is a difference is not a factor.

  21. Tim

    November 17, 2008 at 6:16 am

    Thats a good point but there is alot less room in the octoagon than the ring to work with. Bottom line any fighter is beatable and IMO Lesnar would beat Fedor 3 years from now just my thoughts and he could beat him now but not likely due to his inexperience at the given moment. Well we will have to wait and see what happens.

  22. roy

    November 17, 2008 at 6:51 am

    i do agree lesnar could beat anyone right now with a little luck, but could still lose to some guys that are not that good.i don't know about him beating fedor we will have to see how he does with nog.

  23. Tim

    November 17, 2008 at 8:16 am

    Anything can happen and we are going to have to wait till next year to see Lesnar fight again…i am guessing sometime around March or April. UFC 96?

  24. fedor24

    November 17, 2008 at 8:48 am

    We should all be patient for Fedor vs. Lesnar. I have to say all the talk of Lesnar's potential and youth have me confused. He is a big quick superb wrestler with heavy hands and is an aggresive finisher. All great traits in a fighter to sell tickets. His sometimes brash and cocky demeanor enrage some and enthrall others. His is awesome. He brings the sports "entertainment" to the ufc as no one has since Tito in his grave digger hey days. But let us not forget that Fedor is 32 (young), world sambo champion, knockout power in both hands and feet. Fedor is a chain fighter. He is the best at seamlessly transitioning between striking judo bjj sambo etc. Maybe the question isn't how much better Lesnar will be in three years but rather how much better will Fedor be in three years? Lets give Fedor some props for not talking smack and being humble. It seems many of us forget just how rare it is to have a champion with these qualities. I would love to see this fight when Lesnar has the tools developed to compete with Fedor and give him a run for his money.

  25. Cyryus

    November 17, 2008 at 9:14 am

    What actually irritates me is all this talk about how Brock Lesnar has all this potential and he's so young and blah blah blah. He's only 1 year younger than Fedor, so really how is it he's going to be able to mature better than Fedor when Fedor has years of experience already up on Brock?

  26. roy

    November 17, 2008 at 9:25 am

    great points fedor24 and cyryus, i don't see anyone chatching up to fedor on a mma skill level.oh by the way he is no longer the sambo champ he lost and took home the bronze not bad though 7 yr run as the sambo champ.

  27. Tim

    November 17, 2008 at 9:52 am

    I see your point but Every fighter Lesanr has faced has had years and years of experience over him and yet he dominated them all to think that FEDOR would walk right over Lesnar is ridiculous, FEdor is great but even he can be beat and if there anyone out there who could do it would be lesnar and stop looking at Lesnar lack of experience and look at his future and how much experience he has gainined in only 1 year of MMA fighting…Shit seriously in only 1year he has come in with little skill and has adapted and grown those skills and has dominated every fighter just image where he will be in 3 more years..im not saying Brock would beat Fedor and vice versa what i am saying is no one knows this and it will only be speculation and opinions form here on out until it does happen. So stop talking about that and just give Lesnar his glory and see where he grows in the next few years.

  28. Tim

    November 17, 2008 at 9:54 am

    Fedor is a great fighter but even the great succomb to defeat…hell lesnar will lose as well its just going to happen.

  29. Cobra Clutch

    November 17, 2008 at 11:06 am

    Um…Lesnar already lost to Mir. That didn't take long, did it?

  30. TIM

    November 17, 2008 at 11:11 am

    Sure he did but he beat the shit out of MIR before he made a rookie mistake. If he faces MIR again i assure you that will not happen again. i meant that he will lose at some point no that he is champ.

  31. TIM

    November 17, 2008 at 11:32 am

    Check this out..very intersting inside the training camps of both Randy and Brock…Brock looks very good and comfortable and will only get better.

    http://www.flexonline.com/videos?bctid=2169241001

  32. tommy

    November 17, 2008 at 11:52 am

    i wanted cotoure to win so badly but i knew it wasnt gonna happen. theres no way he could do his clinch game angainst a guy with at least 50 lbs on him and whos a ncaa wrestler cotoures the fucking man but i dont think he couldve won this fight

  33. boink

    November 17, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    lets see what happened after the Mir-Nogueira fight. How well will Brock defend his tittle against 2 fighters.

  34. steve

    November 17, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    Roy I was the one who pointed out the Fedor and Lesnar age thing and how Lesnar wont catch up to him. No biggie just throw me some credit every once in a while.lol

    Tim u dont get it. Lesnar doesnt have the right style to beat Fedor. If he stands he gets pieced up and if he takes Fedor down he gets armbarred no matter how much he trains to defend it. It will happen. Lesnar would have one chance and thats to land a big shot. Sure it could happen but its most likely not gonna happen. Fedor is just too good. As Randy showed Lesnars stand up isnt that great. Randy I thought was winning the fight fight in the clinch and on the feet trading hands. He caught him a couple good times and if randy can get at brock on the feet then Fedor WOW lets just say it wouldnt be pretty. Its not really fair to Fedor or Lesnar to compare the 2 since Lesnar isnt on the same lvl. Lesnar beat a 45 yr old man. Sure randy is great but he is 45. And had been KO'd twice by Liddell. So its not a shock to see him get hit and fall again. I take nothing away from randy but I think that Mir will get beat by Nog and that when Lesnar and Nog fight that Lesnar will get submitted. I dont see Lesnar finishing Big Nog and if u give Nog enough time he will catch u in a submission.

  35. dane drebin

    November 17, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    i think if lesnar fights smart he could beat nog just compare how randy out struck sylvia and how nog got dominated on the feet. Brock has the ability to keep it standing i dotn see nog takin him down. i think lesnar could punish nog on the feet if he is smart enough to keep it standing.

    and lesnar is definetly a THREAT to fedor if fujita can rock fedor lesnar can. i think fedor would win right now and he is a better fighter by far. everyones says brock wont catch up to fedor's ability but theres a way better chance of brock getting closer to fedors technique than there is of fedor catching up to brocks size, speed, weight, and reach and thats just common sense. to say brock isnt a threat is just retarded because anything can happen in mma especially with soemone brocks size.

  36. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 1:53 am

    I totally agree i couldnt have said it better myself.

  37. serge

    November 18, 2008 at 3:21 am

    Well, Fedor is a way faster than Lesnar. Just watch his last fight with Timi. It was impossible to see his punches so fast they were.

  38. serge

    November 18, 2008 at 3:29 am

    Generally, I would like to say it is Lesnar that has to prove everything. Fedor had already secured his legacy and has nothing to prove. By the way, Fedor is smaller than Randy. he is natural light heavy weight or may be even middle weight. Look how much body fat he has got and without ever cutting weight he is fighting at 230. From what i see, he has 40-50 lbs to lose to look like Randy at 220 lbs.

    Fedor is phenomenal fighter and I do not see Lesnar ever reaching Fedor's level. Fight with Randy was a good match up for Lesnar. Now, there are some guys in UFC who can beat Lesnar. Nog, Mir (possibly), Gonzaga and Kongo. Each of them can knock Lesnar out or submit him. He has a lot to prove before he can be considered even top 10.

  39. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 4:15 am

    Well if you beat a top 10 level guy in my eyes thats makes you top 10 material and he did so in Randy who is listed at # 5 ranked. True lesnar has some great tests ahead but shit he is only 1year into his UFC career and 2 years training..give the man some credit Fedor has years of experience and i excpect his skills to be more developed than Lesnar at this point but give lesnar another 2-3 years of training and fights and this man will be seriously scarry if he dedicates hmself as he did his first year in training of course.

  40. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 4:38 am

    serge! dude, really??? Kongo?! Are you feeling ok? Gonzaga is way too slow…owch!! KO! and brock won't make the same mistakes he did in their 1st as in a rematch with mir…MAYBE Big Nog, but that's just a maybe. Oh, and if a mir – lesnar rematch does happen, Frank better hope for the same ref to step in and save his ass when brock starts to crush in his skull again

  41. serge

    November 18, 2008 at 5:05 am

    We will see:) Mir beating Brock, I doubt it myself. Kongo has a puncher chance. Big Nog and Gonzaga have more chances to beat Brock than Brock beating them. Lesnar is a too much hip. He is a big and strong guy, but seriously, he is a way too old to progress too far. He is already 31 and at this age you gonna be something in MMA. Randy is unique in this case and from what i saw in Randy/ Brock match, Lesnar with all his size , power and weight was not able to dominate guy who was half of his size and 15 years older. Bad sign for Brock.

  42. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 5:17 am

    Are you High? Brock dominated the Randy fight you obviously dont know what wrestling is and the clinch…Brock dominated both positions and while Randy put forth a valiant effort he was no where close to winning that fight…Sure he got in a few shots duh its MMA but Lesnars shots were so strong and fast that he couldnt get out of the way. FYI Randy started fighting at the same age as Lesnar did so dont count your chickens before they hatch….Lesnar is in a division of his own when it comes to athletic ability and if there is anyone out there who can make run into MMA at 31 its Lesnar only because of his wrestling background. Wrestling is everything in MMA is the foundation of this sport and a basis for every move in MMA,

  43. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 5:20 am

    Lesnar has a long way to go but he is on the right path we will find out how much better he can get with his next fight which will be a challenge.

  44. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 5:20 am

    Not Dominate!? Did it seem to you that brock put in as little effort with randy as it did to me? And yet look at randy after the fight…imagine if brock was actually angry or didn't respect randy enough to go so easy on him. Look how he absolutley DESTROYED Heath herring after all his smack talk…and as far as pro athletes getting on in their age…look to the NFL with Kurt warner and Brett favre…look at Randy…you mean to tell me Brock isn't part of this same type of new age of better physical conditioning? Just watch ONE of this guys training and strengthening sessions…No Way! Just wait til he's in there with another fighter who was dumb enough to run his mouth before the fight. The only reason Randy got off so easy was because of his pre-fight legend status and buttload of respect for Brock in every interview…the second he pissed Brock off( punched and cut him) Randy was waking up from the octagon floor!

  45. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 5:38 am

    When we've all agreed that Brock has unlimited potential, will someone please broach the subject of BJ vs GSP or even Ken Flo(who should be careful what he asks for) Muchas Graci'as

  46. serge

    November 18, 2008 at 5:40 am

    If you want to see domination, please watch Fedor vs Timi.

  47. serge

    November 18, 2008 at 5:42 am

    The way randy looked after the fight is due to weight and size difference. But otherwise there was no domination. Randy was holding himself until got caught with that big shot. I was thinking randy would lose but i expected real domination from much stronger and bigger Brock.

  48. serge

    November 18, 2008 at 5:44 am

    BJ vs. GSP that will be the fight to watch:) i am already salivating!!!! I just have no idea who gonna win but i am all for GSP.

  49. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 5:49 am

    Tim Sylvia wasnt that good in fact most of the fighters Fedor has fought were not even that good except for a few…he is like 29-1 or something but only like 10 of those fights were against anyone really good…dont take this the wrong way Fedor is great fighter but dont diss brock because of his lack of expeience thats just a fact he is just starting the sport and look what he has accomplished….his MMA potential is unlimited as MW74 said he is right on. He is still new into his career give the man some props Fedor could not accomplish what brock has done in such a short time with only 2 years of MMA training total included the last year he was fighting. Brock basically won the UFC title with only a years worth of training MMA all together and had to learn intbetween fights this last year and has grown so much as a fighter and will continue to.

  50. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 5:56 am

    Im sick of GSP with his Japanese kamikaze headband,brazilian jiujitsu,french accent, hailing from canada by way of las vegas or whatever he's gonna try to appeal to a broader audience…just be who you are. Some froogy ass cannuck who's outlandishly talented. but really? do we need all the gimmickry?! Come on! This is Not WWE and as seen with Randy, the crowd cheering for you does not influence the other fighters to let you win. Prodigy in two…via submission. Then time to teach Ken Flo his place in the world…3rd at best….but if we are all transported to bizarro world and gsp does win…Spider anyone?!

  51. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 5:58 am

    Yes Brock was dominating the fight…the first round went to Lesnar 10-9 and lesnar said himself his game plan was to feel out Randy for the first round which he did and then the second round came and look what happened Randy got KO'd and beat to shit. Sure Randy hang in there with him he is great fighter with alot of great skill. Brocks game plans are great and they work for him…if you have noticed in each fight he has had he has had a different game plan..smart fighter while others just stick to what they do best Brock has branched out and becoming more comfortable. I dont think Brock will gas out and that will be a great part of his success for a man his size while he will overwork others.

  52. serge

    November 18, 2008 at 6:00 am

    Tim, you just like Brock:) Actually Fedor achieved much more than Brock when being new kid on the block. His rise was fast and to get the belt he had to beat Big Nog himself in prime. It is already 8 years and Fedor has not lost even once. Regarding Brock, he will lose and quite soon. After that lose, this discussion will have no sense. Fedor is unique and he is number 1. Tim Sylvia is 2 times UFC champion. he beat Andre and a lot of other guys and the way Fedor dominated him while looking even smaller than Randy in comparison to Brock is a very telling thing. Randy simply had no tools to manage Brock. he could not take him down due to size/ weight difference, his submit ion game is so so, he has no knock out power. Let's watch when Brock meet guy who is better suited to put him down.

  53. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 6:00 am

    I dont what it is but i just dont like BJ i know he is a good fighter and all but i think right now GSP is better…Ken Flo looked great

  54. roy

    November 18, 2008 at 6:03 am

    i don't like tim but he is pretty good and more than 10 of fedors fights with with named fighters, you can't really compare fedor and lesnar they both have done great things but fedor is proven to the fullest, lesnar has to beat nog to be the real champ of the ufc.

  55. serge

    November 18, 2008 at 6:04 am

    I am all for watching Lesnar-Big Nog. Big Nog's head is a like a brick. No one has been able to knock him out yet. He is submition genius and his stand up is also good. let's see how Brock will handle guys with more tools to beat him and then we will see.

  56. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 6:06 am

    Brock did look like he was breathing a little heavy towards the end of the first, but I think that was more anxiousness at being so close to realizing his goal andd being in the same ring as randy,who he no doubt looked up to. The interesting thing will be in about five fights when the opposition will have more legit tape of brock to watch and study than he does of them…that's gotta factor in at some point, although, how much by the time he has improved at that point?? because…….DAMN!!! Size xxxl gloves? That's like getting hit with a canned ham wrapped in an oven mit…and did he or did he not hold back on randy? Honestly.

  57. serge

    November 18, 2008 at 6:07 am

    As personality BJ well,BJ is BJ and it says everything about him:)

    I would not bet on this fight though. But I want GSP to win too.

  58. serge

    November 18, 2008 at 6:10 am

    Well, all big guns but Big Nog left UFC. Arlovski and Tim would be a good match for Brock. Similar sizes and power.

  59. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 6:11 am

    Randy had no tools to manage lesnar? well he had wrestling and proved to be somewhat of an equalizer in that fight even though Brock dominated that as well..face it Brock is just getting better and he would pose a problem for FEDOR right now…Fedor lacks the size, speed and overall athleticism and conditioning not to mention wrestling to compete at that level with brock..also i dont think anyone can get a submission on Lesnar unless its around his waist down like a knee bar..he practilly broke MIRs arms off when he tried to execute 2 arm bar attempts on him and in my opinon MIR is a better BJJ expert than FEDOR but thats just my opinion…Brock matches up very well to Fedor ( atlhough he is inexperienced in his game he would still pose a great threat to Fedor) right now and just imagine in 2 or 3 years how good this guy will be then..you can say FEdor would kill brock all you want but when you really look at it…Brock has a very good chance of beating Fedor right now..sure not a good one but that is only due to his lack of experience in the ring and being comfortable in his skills he is learning but give him 5 more fights and i assure you Brock would be happy to fight Fedor…hell even now he would brock said he only wants to fight the best and nothing less.

  60. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 6:16 am

    oh yeah…and until Fedor fights a true upper tier opponent…we will continue to have nothing but what ifs and hypothetical conversations…Tim sylvia was stinking up the joint by the time he left ufc…and arlovski? Good…better than me…but an insult to Fedor…one fist or foot to that chin, and it's "good night" "thanks for showing up"…Rampage,Wandy,Spider;Randy,Brock,Big Nog,Mir,even with guys like Velasquez coming up…where does Fedor really belong? More gimmick fights against some has-been foreign agency's best fighter or with the best,without a doubt, in the world. If he's just worried about getting paid…enjoy ufc's garbage of yesterday(spelled T-I-T-O) and have fun in the minor league…maybe when he's done he can fight in the wwe

  61. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 6:18 am

    Roy thats a good point…and Lesnar will be tested next year and i like how you stated you cant compare Fedor with Brock as they are on two different levels Fedor is matur in MMA where brock is a rookie but that doesnt mean that he couldnt beat Fedor right now..not much of a chance right now but given time to develop and due to his oeverall size and athletic ability he would be a great match up for Fedor i think but lets get past NOG, MIR, Carwin, Velasquez etc… and then we can talk more on that. Fedor is great fighter but he can be beat remember there is someone out there who is always better than you even Brock. Roy is right its not fair to compare the fighters at this stage.

  62. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 6:22 am

    LOL…that was funny…i do agree that Fedor should come to UFC and lets see how dominant he really is just because there is a few fighters in there he has beat doesnt mean that their isnt top level talent there. But it wont happen as i believe Fedor wants to protect his image and he knows the possibility of him fighting in the UFC would mean he would face top notch talent that are young and developing fighters who could beat him…Now i dont know why but i am picking AA to beat Fedor i will hopefully be at that fight live.

  63. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 6:31 am

    Wow! How close if you get to go live?! Out here in so cal the tix are wayyyy too eFF'n expensive….I'd have to take out another mortgage on my house…if I hadn't already lost it to forclosure…..(not even laughing on the inside)…But who really, in affliction poses a legit threat. To really solidify his legacy he HAS TO come to ufc. I can't believe that he is afraid…to not do so would tarnish him more than doing so and losing a couple but winning six,seven more…am I crazy to think so? Besides, tell me Dana wouldn't pay him…with a chance to top off the HW division AND put affliction under????

  64. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 6:46 am

    I live in So Cal and the only reason i might go is if my dad can get us tickets…he knows some member of the city council of Anaheim and i have used their box suites before for like hockey games and arena football. So he might get them for this too but i dont know. Sorry about the home man…i know its tough and then the fires…my parents live in YL well Anaheim to be exact but if your familiar with that area you will know that Anahiem hills is on one side of the freeway and then you have Anaheim in the middle and YL on the other side…Savi Ranch Area where the fires burned..my parents are okay it didnt reach them they were like 1/4 mile away from where the fires were i went down there on Sunday and damn all along the 91fwy its just black…i feel so bad for them all.

  65. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 6:53 am

    Yeah man! The home is no big thing…just A THING. Got great fam & kids. Glad your folks were ok…I almost got caught in that fire trying to get home for a get together to watch the fight…had to get to green river(goin east) got stopped at YL/Weir cyn…it was on fire slightly…route home…55s-22w-5n-91w-605n-71s-91…Suck a$$ but home and fam safe.

    Dude…for real though…UFC mdlwt,wltrwt,ltwt even lhwt but with Fedor in…nobody even comes close to touching any of those divisions…true?!

  66. roy

    November 18, 2008 at 6:55 am

    there you guys are wrong, there is no one in the ufc for him to fight that will chage his status and he is not worried about his record or any of that nonsense please, the best heavey wieghts besides fedor is nog(who he already beat twice) aa(who he fights next) and barnett who hopefully one day he will fight. please name who in the ufc is worth him coming to fight?maybe randy but since he lost its not as big if lesnar beats nog(wittch i dout) than you could agrue about lesnar but there is no one there that he needs to fight.

  67. steve

    November 18, 2008 at 7:01 am

    Tim of course u agree if somebody said Brock had a small dick u would disagree and agrue that he had one of the bigger dicks in MMA. Sorry but im sick of u acting like he has a great chance at beating Fedor. He is 3-1. He isnt 20-1. He beat Rnady Couture who like u said was overmatched in size and everythign else but yet randy was outsriking him and winning in the clinch. I like Brock but god stop making him into a superman of MMA. He didnt look as dominant to me as he did to u thats for sure. Speed was definelty on Randys side in that fight so throw that thing about him being faster then Randy out and Dane if Mir can pull guard and Submit Lesnar what makes u think that Nog cant do the same thing?

  68. serge

    November 18, 2008 at 7:02 am

    Fedor lacks the size, speed and overall athleticism and conditioning not to mention wrestling to compete at that level with brock. LOL!

    Well, Fedor lacks only size:) I do not know if you ever watched Fedor fights. He is much faster than any heavy weights. He looks fat, but his conditioning is great. He never was out of breath. Look how he moves, how fluid Fedor is. Look how he knocked down Tim , a guy 30-40 pounds heavier and much taller. What about other fighters Fedor destroyed. I do not kow what you were watching if you say Fedor is not athletic, not fast and not powerful. The guy is phenom. He is absolutely unbelievable and only his looks are very deceiving.

  69. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 7:03 am

    Roy…did you see AA's last fight? He almost lost man…and that was to some schlep. There are multiple reasons HE is not in the ufc…and you honestly think that not Rampage,Wandi,MIR,Kongo,Gonzaga,Brock,BigNog,Carwin,Velasquez not ONE of them can beat him??? Share whatever you're smokin bro' cause that is some crazy a$$ $hit! But AA DOES have a chance?! Wow! Not just Wow-but eFF'n WOW!!! How bad is your crush on Fedor? Dude, I dig all the dudes I route for but YOU SIR ARE DELUSIONAL. Much luck with that…

  70. steve

    November 18, 2008 at 7:05 am

    I swear its like u dont understand what people would be likely to do lol. Besides the fact that Big Nog can be run over by a truck and still be successful and he can get the shit beat out of him for 3 rounds and still submit u Lesnar could sure beat him but how? I dont think he can actually knock out Big Nog with a punch and he dont kick so how can he win? Go 5 rounds on the feet? Nog will pull guard and sub him and if Lesnar takes him down then he will be submitted. I just find it hard to see how Nog will lose a 5 round fight to Lesnar.

  71. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 7:08 am

    Last thing…it is lunch time…Mir? 2nd fight ever for Brock in mma…and he lept about 6 feet with mir attached to his leg…guarantee he won't make a rookie mistake like that again…not saying he won't ever lose again…just not like that…seriously though…all this talk is laid to rest if Fedor fights in the ONE place he,and only HE, hasn't yet…Octagon baby!..Good day men…grub on ! Out.

  72. serge

    November 18, 2008 at 7:11 am

    Right now all best heavy weights are in Affliction. Arlovski is on 5-6 fights winning streak. Barnett,, those former IFL guys. There is only Nog in UFC. Randy, I do not think he would fare well against Arlovski or Barnett.

    You can thank Dana for his big mouth that Fedor is not in UFC. He disrespected Fedor and respect is important for Russians.

    I think, it doe snot matter whom Fedor beats, there will be always people still demanding more from him. He is number 1. Until someone bestes him, Fedor is the best. To compare Lesnar to fedor is an insult to a greatest fighter.

  73. roy

    November 18, 2008 at 7:41 am

    mw74 what the hell are you talking about aa almost lost his last fight? you mean the one where he knocked out roy nelson who was a pretty tough dude and never been knocked out before? and are you saying aa dosn't belong in the ufc?and as far as the fighters you named i don't understand what your saying most of them are not hw's and big nog can not beat fedor he already tried the rest are not even worth mentioning because they are nowhere near his level shit your naming guys that have 4 fights like they could beat fedor what the hell are you smoking? probally nothing because you must be 13 yrs old kid stay off of lesnar's nuts and you may learn something.

  74. roy

    November 18, 2008 at 7:53 am

    ps mw74 you named rampage who on a interview when asked who is the best mma fighter of all like most people involved with the sport and 95% of the fighters themselves said fedor!!and wandi who you mentioned said the same thing, carwin and velaquez who in the hell have the3y fought?nobody!!kongo no way gonzaga would have a chance but fall short and has only 1 win against a ranked fighter who most would not rank anymore. sorry your way off your crush on lesnar blinds you to the facts.

  75. serge

    November 18, 2008 at 8:01 am

    Yes, as Fedor told Cro Cop fell on evil times.

    I think he is ruined morally and I strongly believe it all came to this after him winning Grand Prize in Pride. It is like a runner who reached some goal and then cannot run.

    I do not think Cro Cop belongs in top 10 right now at all. he is not the same fighter we knew few years ago.

  76. roy

    November 18, 2008 at 8:18 am

    i think your right serge at that tournement i don't think anyone would have beat cro cop but after that he hasn't looked the same and i keep hoping he will return to form but every fight it seems less likely.

  77. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 8:26 am

    I think what he is trying to say is that Fedor has not fought everyone and you all are so caught up in the hype of Fedor only fighting name fighters so when do the new kids get a chance to show off their MMA skills? Never i presume…i tell you this if think that anyone of these fighters includeing Lesnar would get demolished by Fedor your on something. To count afighter out is something you never do in MMA and Although Fedor has proved that he is one of the best he still hasnt beaten the best…hell know one knows who the best is as no matter how good you are there is always someone better than you…maybe not right in front of you or current fighters you have or have not faced but somwhere hell maybe Lesnar will be the nex Fedor in your eyes or even better but all i am saying is Fedor has been fighting the same old people who have been around a long time he HAS NOT FACED ANY ONE NEW TO MMA LIKE LESNAR ETC…and just because you are a great fighter does not make you perfect or better than anyone else as i bellieve sure you may have a big upperhand in the fight but you cant underestimate your opponent…FEDOR needs to face new talent…fighters who are on the rise and up and coming who have a few years worth of training…he needs to fight fresh meat…in order to be considered the best of the best look at boxing boxers are always facing new talent wether they would kill them or not…i hate boxing but just an example. Fedor can not keep fighting fighters that have been around for the last 20 years…he needs to face fighters who are young and growing that why he and the fighter will be tested..no disrespect but how can you consider him the best when he hasnt fought the best ( EVERYONE) he is one of the best but surely isnt the best fighter in the world…someone out there is better than he is for sure…the question is who? maybe Lesnar in a few more years, or another up and coming UFC fighter. We dont know…

  78. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 8:27 am

    Cro Crop was great during that time…best of luck to him

  79. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 8:32 am

    But for now..until that time comes i presume Fedor is one of the best HWGHTS out there..but until he answers these questions he isnt the best unti lall questions have been answered..which in most cases never will be. you Fedor is the best fighter in Affliction and Japan but not in the UFC…he hasnt proven that yet

  80. roy

    November 18, 2008 at 8:40 am

    tim what yyou don't seem to understand is he dosn't have to prove anything, he already did it, he has beat every fighter he has ever faced, you say he needs to fight up and comers?people would just say he is fighting cans! he is fighting aa who is a true top5 hw after that hopefully barnett another top 5 guy. and tim when 95% of the people involved with the sport say he is the best hw tha pretty much makes it so, the old #1 guy and a consant top 3 hw thourgh out his career is nog and fedor already beat him.nog has only lost to fedor barnett and henderson and never stopped.

  81. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 8:51 am

    Well Roy…you always seem to make sense of things. I guess i was a little ignorant and overlooking that fact but let me say this you cant deny that the up and comers could very well beat Fedor including Lesnar. In 3 years lesnar will be a beast but before i say more i want to see how he fares against either NOG or MIR…i hope its Nog as that would be a great test to him but i would also like to see MIR as that would set up a rematch and in a sense would probably be a tune up match for him to face NOG or Gonzaga. Fedor is unquestionably great but there is always someone better than you…it just may be he may be the best at this given time but his time will pass and the new era of MMA fighters will develop and take over and in 3 years lesnar will be a top 10 HWGHT.

  82. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 8:57 am

    …buuurrrp! Ahhhh… ?Hey Roy, you need to go get something to eat, dude…other than whatever is up inside Fedors a$$…Cuase…WOW!!!…REALLY?!! your man is that untouchable? How did AA do against Sylvia…since you love your ancient history so much. Nog is still young and has improved since his fight with Fedor…I don't think Brock is the end all be all in mma, just an impressive SOB who will take any challenge because he's hungry..as are all ufc fighters…when they lose that hunger, they go to other companies…or are sent packing. I just don't see the same thing in Fedor's eyes anymore…maybe you can from your view up inside his colon…in ufc he would be forced to change or at least up his game…I don't dislike Fedor, I would just love to see him in a fight where he's pushed and it brings out the old fedor…not like some old lion the romans just keep feeding for entertainment purposes only….oh, and AA is gonna make zTimi's fight look long and hardfought! ha ha ha!

  83. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 8:58 am

    If not already since he beat Randy who was ranked #5

  84. Jake

    November 18, 2008 at 9:01 am

    I think this is a good fight for Fedor. Arlovski is a good heavyweight as long as he's not hit in the fangs. Then he should fight Barnett. There are some quality fights out there for Fedor. Hopefully , we'll get to see some.

  85. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 9:12 am

    Jake,I think AA is a great fighter…just not gonna happen for him vs Fedor though. AA could come back and fight LT HW vs guys like franklin,hendo,chuck,etc. and clean up and make a ton…but Fedors feet and fists are gonna be too much…just kiddin 'bout him makin Timi's fight look good:) hah! NO one else has THAT little heart. See how he folded against nog? Then gave up his back to Fedor like a dog in heat…

  86. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 9:17 am

    MW74 with all due respect man…Roy has some good points but i do agree seeing him fight in the octagon would be nice and better for his career in my opinion. We typically dont try and disrespect people on this site either as we all have our opinions.

  87. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 9:18 am

    oh, and Roy…the AA fight was his last in elite…where the dude had against the ropes…just saying, guy who hadn't beat anyone vs AA and well maybe he just took him lightly, but dude had real bad intentions..AA shoulda put him away alot quicker and cleaner…and while not 13 years old, I HAVE retained the boyish good looks from my youth thank you!

  88. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 9:20 am

    LOL….

  89. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 9:23 am

    Tim, totally kool dude…no disrespect meant…I can tone it down mos def. We alright Roy? :)

  90. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 9:32 am

    Thanks man we leave the smack talking to the uneducated and bad attitudes here. From my standpoint i have found this fite to be more of a learning enviroment where people can bae their opinions and get feedback respectivly. I have learned a few things from Roy and i am sure you will too from everyone.

  91. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 9:33 am

    I meant site….

  92. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 9:35 am

    MW74…welcome by the way.

  93. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 9:39 am

    Much obliged sir…and I'll definitely agree the posts here are a million times more respectable and responsible than on other sites that shall remain nameless but that rhyme with "Mahoo"…The posts seem much more knowledgable as well…righteous!!…

  94. roy

    November 18, 2008 at 9:41 am

    are you done bleching up lesnar's love juice mw74,i thought it was pretty funny, as far as i am concerned you seemed to be in love with lesnar and who am i to stop your love, jk i don't take things personal. i don't think fedor is unbeatable he is the best there is though all i said is there is no one in the ufc worth him fighting.of course lesnar could beat anyone just some are unlikey like fedor, and fedor could lose to aa but i dont see it that way.thanks for the back up tim you know we don't always agree but it nothing personal.

  95. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 9:45 am

    No problem and i know we dont but i just irritates me when people start smack talking and trying to get personal..theirs just no need for it.. By the way if you agreed on everything i said or vice versa this would be a very boring site and we would probably learn nothing.enough said.

  96. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 9:47 am

    a little turmoil here and there never hurt anyone…

  97. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 9:51 am

    Hey Roy…that's just rude! It was chinese food!!…love juice…hilarious…Mos def no offense…way kool..But I do joke too much at times so I will pull back if need be when I do. ..As far as AA vs Fedor…fedor inside of 2and a half no sweat…that's just it…no sweat…and the "no one worth fighting in ufc argument?…c'mon! The first fight I ever got into on the playground was with a guy who said he didn't have to prove himself and that he would mop up the floor with me…(not verbatim)…but I clobbered the guy…took me too lightly…after that…I had this guys number every time…same thing gonna happen to Fedor should he go ufc or take them lightly…better tcb vs AA 1st…then we'll see……love juice…..sicko

  98. Tim

    November 18, 2008 at 9:51 am

    MW74 i agree other sites are pretty bad to the point where people start name calling etc…even though they dont know the person…imature idiots.

  99. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 9:56 am

    Yeah, that other site I didn't name…dudes were just foul and not even doin it to be funny…just "uneducated" as you so elequently stated. Wayyyy over the line and veering totally off course from topic…

    .Anyone know who Spider Silva is fighting next…that it even matters. Dude is way impressive…see him toy with Cote that last fight? What the heck was that?! Think he and gsp could get a catchweight fight should gsp beat BJ…not that it will happen…

  100. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 9:58 am

    that's eloquently…damn you spellcheck!

  101. roy

    November 18, 2008 at 10:10 am

    don't get me wrong i would love to see fedor in the ufc i just don't think there is alot there right now, right now the fights sould be aa than barnett.the only proven hw's are nog and randy(probally done), with lesnar right there a few fights away from top 5 hw status, i beleave he should be in the top 10 by now.if lesnar beats nog that would really move him up in my book.there is some up and comers that show alot of promise like carwin and cain i would love brock to fight them first and see how is the best in the ufc before fedor fights any of them.and mw74 no hard feelings you got me with some good ones had me laughing i like a little shit talk now and again as long as its not hate.

  102. MW74

    November 18, 2008 at 10:17 am

    Nahhh man. Never hate…that takes too much energy! I got too much to do in a day! And wayy no hard feelings but kool we got it out there in case, you know. I agree on Brock vs cain and carwin, but that is not the situation he's in..he HAS to fight the undisputed top guys . That is why they are paying him so eFF'n much. They didn't want to wait until he develops…on the job training and all, you know? If he gets past Nog,mir(2nd),Gonzaga(no sweat)carwin and cain are gonna have to go through those guys before they get to B….and while I appreciate you not interfering with my Brock man love…there is definitely enough Brock to go around…thirsty?!

  103. TIM

    November 18, 2008 at 11:00 am

    LOL..i love it…thirsty…have me laughing on the floor. i totally agree…brock will only get better and if he fights and beats NOG i think in alot of peoples eyes he will gain much more MMA status. Silva i believe might fight Liddell? but thats just a rumor.

  104. steve

    November 18, 2008 at 11:50 am

    Just looking over a couple coments I have to agree with a lot of u but 1 caught my eye. Serge said no matter what fedor does people will still hate on him. Damn stright. Like he said also the best HWs are not in the UFC so going to the UFC he would have nothing to prove. What beat Lesnar and then who? Big Nog for the thrid time? He has 2 solid fights if he stays with affliction. He has AA and then Barnett. Both are consider basically 3rd and 4th best HWs out there. Good Points.

  105. steve

    November 18, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    MW74 wow Lesnar would KO gonzaga? I doubt that shit. He may be able to ground and pound a victiory but on the feet no way.Now he would be able to takedown Kongo and lay on him or possible pound him out but on the feet Kongo would KO him or alteast mess him up. I just dont see it and also some of u really think putting Fedor and Brock in the same league makes sense to you. Fedor is perfectly crafted to beat Lesnar. He will kill him on the feet and will submit him on the ground.

  106. Darwin

    November 18, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Randy said "he" would beat Brock too. Nuff said. Brock will destroy any other heavy weight! The longer he trains the harder it will be to beat him. Come on he has been in MMA for 2 yrs! and he kicked randys ass! He is a true athlete he learns quick. The longer he lingers in the gym the more un-beatable he will become. I mean come on what is randy going to say " fedor will get knocked the f#*k out just like I did"

  107. zalbag

    November 18, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    wow away for one day and i miss like a 40 postathon.

    anyone notice no one ever talks about Fedor in a sense of just facts, but only in ifs, whens, whys???

    I hate talking about him in general because everything gets overblown concerning him.

    Buttt the only thing worth mentioning is that Fedor has tried to find challenges fighting Hong Man Choi, and basically anyone who wants to come to his organization to fight him. He tried to come to the UFC if you check the archives from early 2006 But Dana was a Dick and didnt want to pay him really all that much. They could not agree on the terms of the number of fights on the contract also.

    Realistically who besides Brock is their too fight? Its not worth the pay cut to come to the UFC on a 6 fight deal to fight one guy. What is really too bad is that The best fighter on the planet is in the worst weight class on the planet.

  108. Tim

    November 19, 2008 at 3:07 am

    From what i understand it was FEDOR and his management that didnt want him to fight in the UFC for many reasons mainly money FEDOR wanted like 1 million plus base pay for each fight guarenteed plus bonuses and NO ONE IS WORTH THAT MUCH MONEY FOR BASE PAY…I DONT CARE IF YOUR SUPERMAN. 500K a fight i could see that because i believe Liddel was getting that or maybe it was a combo of his base and win bonus i dont know but surely not 1mil for base pay thats overboard and affliction is paying him close to this but thats why the will go under like the rest you cant have a fighter payout of 2Mil and only do 2 or 3 mil total for a show your not even breaking even your losing money.

  109. Jake

    November 19, 2008 at 3:57 am

    I've been posting facts the whole time. Hong man choi , zuluzino, mark hunt, stop me when you hear a top ten heavyweight …. mark coleman , matt lindland , mirko " I can only beat japanese cans" cro cop . The guy needs to step up and fight. Tim sylvia and Arlovski are steps in the right direction. Even if he doesn't fight in the UFC … Barnett is still out there and he hasn't fought Sergei Kharitonov.(i know his brother beat him twice)

  110. jj

    November 19, 2008 at 11:02 am

    oh man , you guys that say that lesner will beat fedor is a joke. fedor is almost a legend, unbeatable to this point with excellent winning stats. its almost an insult. lesnar is a big strong gorilla, thats all, fedor will chew him up, hes a much better matrial arts fighter…

  111. ron12

    November 19, 2008 at 11:05 am

    fedor is the best, fast, agile, powerful, excellent on the ground and on his feet. lesner is a rookie.

    no way, he would beat fedor, it would be slaughter lol

  112. Ryan S

    November 19, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    Wow, I missed a lot here. Like I said, Fedor/Lesnar would be interesting. They both have strengths. Lesnar has his speed, agility and wrestling, where Fedor has his experience, submissions and striking. On paper, correct me if I'm wrong, it would be Fedor, but who knows. Fedor could be the best, the second best, or the worst. I personally don't care for the arguement, I just think that fight would be fun to watch.

  113. chris

    November 19, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    Fedor isnt the second best or the worst. He is the best hands down. Fedor Could NOT be the WORST. That coment deserves beating haha.

  114. Ryan S

    November 19, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    dude, really? I was making a point. I know what I think and its not that he is the worst OR second best.

  115. Josh

    November 20, 2008 at 9:47 am

    Couture got PUNKED, like all of you maroons who thought Couture was actually gonna WIN. Brock could have hurt him even more at the end, Couture is finished so he should just shuut the f up.

  116. miko

    November 20, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Uh, hardly Josh. Getting punked would imply that Lesnar tooled him for several rounds or just came out and destroyed him, neither of which happened.

    At the end of the day, Randy got caught with a solid shot, that's all.

    Plain and simple.

  117. TIM

    November 20, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    I agree Couture got beat up but he didnt get tooled Now HErring got tooled…Randy just lost due to size and strength and speed along with the skills brock has learned were too much for Randy and yes Brock could beat Fedor not likely now but you never no that would be an epic match if it happend but i would like to see this in 3 years but for what its worth it probably will not happen. Brock has along way to go but he has come along way in very very short time he has all the potential in the world to be a great fighter just give him time to develop and we may be seeing another legend in the making.

  118. Darwin

    November 20, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    On paper randy should have put a skirt on lesnar he has better in every area to brocks nothing, but randy got knocked the f*#%k out! An MMA "legend" once said all the stats go out the window once you get punched in the face. Brock is too big too young and too strong. Fedor is just another mma fighter like I said the longer brock is left in the gym the harder he will be to beat. Fedor may look good on paper but when he has too look across the ring at that beef he wont chew him up he will choke! So chew on that jj.

  119. Ty Pennington

    November 20, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    Where exactly has Brock improved? Over the past 2 yrs he doesnt look any better then I would think of him to look. He uses wrestling to control people and he throws a hard punch. His hands dont look very good to me and his ground and pound isnt very vicious either. The last fight with Randy well when you are that big and you land a punch you should hurt your opponent and he did what anyone would do get side control and hammer fist and elbow randy who at the time couldnt really defend himself. Lesnars style really wont change over time. He will always look to strike to set up a takedwon and ground and pound. Can Lesnar outstrike some of the better strikers in the HW division? Not sure and to be honest we may never find out. Every time he gets his bell rung he is just gonna get a takedown and lay on the guy.If Lesnar does try and stand I think he will get put to sleep. People dont really think about it but Lesnars strength is wrestling and he cant really use that in MMA because of his lack of submission defense. His striking is powerful but slow and sloppy. He doesnt have very good head movement or footwork. All those skills will improve a little but not like everyone thinks. Lesnar in 3 yrs wont look much different from what he looks like now. And to even think about saying he could beat Fedor is how tbs puts it "Very Funny".

  120. T.R.

    November 20, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    Fedor is just way too superior to Lesnar in every way. If they fought now there is no way Lesnar could win.

    Saying Lesnar would have any chance against fedor is like saying someone like matt sera could upset gsp. Or cote could last 3 rounds with a silva. Or jardine could beat liddell.

    wait, that did happen because ANYTHING can happen in mma.

    Fedor didn't even dominate Linland when he won and linland is not even a heavyweight. WHO knows? IT's not gonna happend anytime soon with fedor and lesnar anyway.

  121. YC

    November 20, 2008 at 6:57 pm

    bottom line with Fedor, fuck his record and forget everything, we all know what pride did for him, but now he has a great opportunity to become a real legend so if affliction doesn't hand feed him lower competition to boost his record and continues to put him against top HW's like they have so far then Fedor can be called a "god" like some ppl on here call him. so if he's able to win consistently over top ranked HW's then Fedor can retire a legend and until then he's just another guy that's over publicized.

  122. zalbag

    November 20, 2008 at 8:08 pm

    I agree im sick of hearing about him but seriously he is the best or 2nd best fighter in the world how can you argue against that at all. You can try anyone can make an argument against him. however just answer these two questions then. Name the other mma HW with over 10 years mma experience who is undeafeated with a belt in an organization who still hasn't ever even had a very close call to losing. Its like saying Anderson Silva is over hyped because he lost 4 matches in his career. If he is overhyped then tell me who the best HW is?

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