November 18, 2008 at 10:10 am
don't get me wrong i would love to see fedor in the ufc i just don't think there is alot there right now, right now the fights sould be aa than barnett.the only proven hw's are nog and randy(probally done), with lesnar right there a few fights away from top 5 hw status, i beleave he should be in the top 10 by now.if lesnar beats nog that would really move him up in my book.there is some up and comers that show alot of promise like carwin and cain i would love brock to fight them first and see how is the best in the ufc before fedor fights any of them.and mw74 no hard feelings you got me with some good ones had me laughing i like a little shit talk now and again as long as its not hate.
November 18, 2008 at 10:17 am
Nahhh man. Never hate…that takes too much energy! I got too much to do in a day! And wayy no hard feelings but kool we got it out there in case, you know. I agree on Brock vs cain and carwin, but that is not the situation he's in..he HAS to fight the undisputed top guys . That is why they are paying him so eFF'n much. They didn't want to wait until he develops…on the job training and all, you know? If he gets past Nog,mir(2nd),Gonzaga(no sweat)carwin and cain are gonna have to go through those guys before they get to B….and while I appreciate you not interfering with my Brock man love…there is definitely enough Brock to go around…thirsty?!
November 18, 2008 at 11:00 am
LOL..i love it…thirsty…have me laughing on the floor. i totally agree…brock will only get better and if he fights and beats NOG i think in alot of peoples eyes he will gain much more MMA status. Silva i believe might fight Liddell? but thats just a rumor.
November 18, 2008 at 11:50 am
Just looking over a couple coments I have to agree with a lot of u but 1 caught my eye. Serge said no matter what fedor does people will still hate on him. Damn stright. Like he said also the best HWs are not in the UFC so going to the UFC he would have nothing to prove. What beat Lesnar and then who? Big Nog for the thrid time? He has 2 solid fights if he stays with affliction. He has AA and then Barnett. Both are consider basically 3rd and 4th best HWs out there. Good Points.
November 18, 2008 at 12:00 pm
MW74 wow Lesnar would KO gonzaga? I doubt that shit. He may be able to ground and pound a victiory but on the feet no way.Now he would be able to takedown Kongo and lay on him or possible pound him out but on the feet Kongo would KO him or alteast mess him up. I just dont see it and also some of u really think putting Fedor and Brock in the same league makes sense to you. Fedor is perfectly crafted to beat Lesnar. He will kill him on the feet and will submit him on the ground.
November 18, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Randy said "he" would beat Brock too. Nuff said. Brock will destroy any other heavy weight! The longer he trains the harder it will be to beat him. Come on he has been in MMA for 2 yrs! and he kicked randys ass! He is a true athlete he learns quick. The longer he lingers in the gym the more un-beatable he will become. I mean come on what is randy going to say " fedor will get knocked the f#*k out just like I did"
November 18, 2008 at 5:50 pm
wow away for one day and i miss like a 40 postathon.
anyone notice no one ever talks about Fedor in a sense of just facts, but only in ifs, whens, whys???
I hate talking about him in general because everything gets overblown concerning him.
Buttt the only thing worth mentioning is that Fedor has tried to find challenges fighting Hong Man Choi, and basically anyone who wants to come to his organization to fight him. He tried to come to the UFC if you check the archives from early 2006 But Dana was a Dick and didnt want to pay him really all that much. They could not agree on the terms of the number of fights on the contract also.
Realistically who besides Brock is their too fight? Its not worth the pay cut to come to the UFC on a 6 fight deal to fight one guy. What is really too bad is that The best fighter on the planet is in the worst weight class on the planet.
November 19, 2008 at 3:07 am
From what i understand it was FEDOR and his management that didnt want him to fight in the UFC for many reasons mainly money FEDOR wanted like 1 million plus base pay for each fight guarenteed plus bonuses and NO ONE IS WORTH THAT MUCH MONEY FOR BASE PAY…I DONT CARE IF YOUR SUPERMAN. 500K a fight i could see that because i believe Liddel was getting that or maybe it was a combo of his base and win bonus i dont know but surely not 1mil for base pay thats overboard and affliction is paying him close to this but thats why the will go under like the rest you cant have a fighter payout of 2Mil and only do 2 or 3 mil total for a show your not even breaking even your losing money.
November 19, 2008 at 3:57 am
I've been posting facts the whole time. Hong man choi , zuluzino, mark hunt, stop me when you hear a top ten heavyweight …. mark coleman , matt lindland , mirko " I can only beat japanese cans" cro cop . The guy needs to step up and fight. Tim sylvia and Arlovski are steps in the right direction. Even if he doesn't fight in the UFC … Barnett is still out there and he hasn't fought Sergei Kharitonov.(i know his brother beat him twice)
November 19, 2008 at 11:02 am
oh man , you guys that say that lesner will beat fedor is a joke. fedor is almost a legend, unbeatable to this point with excellent winning stats. its almost an insult. lesnar is a big strong gorilla, thats all, fedor will chew him up, hes a much better matrial arts fighter…
November 19, 2008 at 11:05 am
fedor is the best, fast, agile, powerful, excellent on the ground and on his feet. lesner is a rookie.
no way, he would beat fedor, it would be slaughter lol
November 19, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Wow, I missed a lot here. Like I said, Fedor/Lesnar would be interesting. They both have strengths. Lesnar has his speed, agility and wrestling, where Fedor has his experience, submissions and striking. On paper, correct me if I'm wrong, it would be Fedor, but who knows. Fedor could be the best, the second best, or the worst. I personally don't care for the arguement, I just think that fight would be fun to watch.
November 19, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Fedor isnt the second best or the worst. He is the best hands down. Fedor Could NOT be the WORST. That coment deserves beating haha.
November 19, 2008 at 3:09 pm
dude, really? I was making a point. I know what I think and its not that he is the worst OR second best.
November 20, 2008 at 9:47 am
Couture got PUNKED, like all of you maroons who thought Couture was actually gonna WIN. Brock could have hurt him even more at the end, Couture is finished so he should just shuut the f up.
November 20, 2008 at 11:30 am
Uh, hardly Josh. Getting punked would imply that Lesnar tooled him for several rounds or just came out and destroyed him, neither of which happened.
At the end of the day, Randy got caught with a solid shot, that's all.
Plain and simple.
November 20, 2008 at 12:31 pm
I agree Couture got beat up but he didnt get tooled Now HErring got tooled…Randy just lost due to size and strength and speed along with the skills brock has learned were too much for Randy and yes Brock could beat Fedor not likely now but you never no that would be an epic match if it happend but i would like to see this in 3 years but for what its worth it probably will not happen. Brock has along way to go but he has come along way in very very short time he has all the potential in the world to be a great fighter just give him time to develop and we may be seeing another legend in the making.
November 20, 2008 at 12:40 pm
On paper randy should have put a skirt on lesnar he has better in every area to brocks nothing, but randy got knocked the f*#%k out! An MMA "legend" once said all the stats go out the window once you get punched in the face. Brock is too big too young and too strong. Fedor is just another mma fighter like I said the longer brock is left in the gym the harder he will be to beat. Fedor may look good on paper but when he has too look across the ring at that beef he wont chew him up he will choke! So chew on that jj.
November 20, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Where exactly has Brock improved? Over the past 2 yrs he doesnt look any better then I would think of him to look. He uses wrestling to control people and he throws a hard punch. His hands dont look very good to me and his ground and pound isnt very vicious either. The last fight with Randy well when you are that big and you land a punch you should hurt your opponent and he did what anyone would do get side control and hammer fist and elbow randy who at the time couldnt really defend himself. Lesnars style really wont change over time. He will always look to strike to set up a takedwon and ground and pound. Can Lesnar outstrike some of the better strikers in the HW division? Not sure and to be honest we may never find out. Every time he gets his bell rung he is just gonna get a takedown and lay on the guy.If Lesnar does try and stand I think he will get put to sleep. People dont really think about it but Lesnars strength is wrestling and he cant really use that in MMA because of his lack of submission defense. His striking is powerful but slow and sloppy. He doesnt have very good head movement or footwork. All those skills will improve a little but not like everyone thinks. Lesnar in 3 yrs wont look much different from what he looks like now. And to even think about saying he could beat Fedor is how tbs puts it "Very Funny".
November 20, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Fedor is just way too superior to Lesnar in every way. If they fought now there is no way Lesnar could win.
Saying Lesnar would have any chance against fedor is like saying someone like matt sera could upset gsp. Or cote could last 3 rounds with a silva. Or jardine could beat liddell.
wait, that did happen because ANYTHING can happen in mma.
Fedor didn't even dominate Linland when he won and linland is not even a heavyweight. WHO knows? IT's not gonna happend anytime soon with fedor and lesnar anyway.
November 20, 2008 at 6:57 pm
bottom line with Fedor, fuck his record and forget everything, we all know what pride did for him, but now he has a great opportunity to become a real legend so if affliction doesn't hand feed him lower competition to boost his record and continues to put him against top HW's like they have so far then Fedor can be called a "god" like some ppl on here call him. so if he's able to win consistently over top ranked HW's then Fedor can retire a legend and until then he's just another guy that's over publicized.
November 20, 2008 at 8:08 pm
I agree im sick of hearing about him but seriously he is the best or 2nd best fighter in the world how can you argue against that at all. You can try anyone can make an argument against him. however just answer these two questions then. Name the other mma HW with over 10 years mma experience who is undeafeated with a belt in an organization who still hasn't ever even had a very close call to losing. Its like saying Anderson Silva is over hyped because he lost 4 matches in his career. If he is overhyped then tell me who the best HW is?
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