Not often do I agree with Dana White, but this time he’s right. Fedor is ducking real competition. At least Cro Cop has the balls to compete.
July 31, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Cant agree more, Fedor is ducking REAL Competition…what a pussy.
July 31, 2009 at 2:24 pm
totally agree. and i use to think he would whoop ass in the ufc heavyweight division. not so much now. what a pussy
July 31, 2009 at 2:55 pm
fador is no p4p king or even at top 3, he stands ever step up..and fights 1 or 2 times a year what's a pussy..step up fador
July 31, 2009 at 2:56 pm
I am stoned..fuck pussy russians ha
July 31, 2009 at 3:27 pm
I'm a fan but so this is disappointing. I agree its dumb for M1 to ask for half on top of the crazy money they were offering fedor. Affliction bit on their BS and look how much money they lost. I think it's up to Fedor. If he wants to fight the best he'll make it happen. If he's good and doesn't care then thats that.
July 31, 2009 at 3:54 pm
what a buncha bitch made punks. For real man. WTF is fedor thinking? Buy out your own contract and move the fuck on man. Pull finkelstein's cock 'n balls out your fuckin mouth and make some smart business moves for once. You're not the best if you won't fight the best. This definitely sends a message to the ufc in my opinion, being "only send me has-beens and never-will-bes to fight so I can say I'm the best". Grow a pair dude, this is your job.
July 31, 2009 at 4:03 pm
I hope the UFC goes after more decent heavyweights out there. Antonio Silva and bobby lashley both have potential and can sell tickets. I'm sure Strikeforce would like to have both of these guy's.
Screw Fedor, In a years time the Heavyweight division will be stacked in the UFC.
July 31, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Most rankings have the ufc having 5 or 6 of the worlds top 10 heavy weights. Arloski is still ranked on some polls. Barnett 2nd test came back positive so any victory after this could be questionable. Overeem and rogers are in strike-force. I think that only hard-core fans would really want to see them fight fedor. It doesn't make sense when ppl say that the hw division in the ufc is weak. Fedor could have 5 great fights right away. 1. Lesnar 2. Randy 3. cain 4. carwin 5. mir (possibilities include gonzaga, and rematch with cro cop). Not to mention the UFC hype machine promoting these fights.
Fedor should take the deal. As hard-core fans we would all tune in to watch him beat overeem or rogers or the cheater barnett but many casual fans would not. Fedor is a great fighter but the UFC could propel his name even more.
Think about this, in an organization like affliction everything fell apart when just ONE hw fighter messed up on roids. They had no quality replacement at all. But if this happened in the UFC they would have 4 or 5 other great fighters ready to step up. The UFC may not have The best hw BUT they do have 5 or 6 of the worlds top ten and no other organization can say that.
July 31, 2009 at 5:00 pm
first off, M-1 is a joke. UFC bent all its corners as much as it could to get fedor, including letting fedor have to go to his sambo tournaments every week or even have him wear as much M-1 ad logos he wanted. i think that is very reasonable. for M-1 to want co-promotion and that is it, i believe that is just plain bullshit. that's like the a tiny football league with a single great player asking the NFL to co-promote its football games on TV. that's just asking too much. to me, fedor may be not his management team or have any say in this, but that is what is total bullshit. fedor needs a management team that looks in his best interest, not the best interest of the mangement company. fedor is still young at 32 and plenty of competition awaits. even crocop awaits fedor now in the UFC. i first lost respect for crocop for backing out on his word to resign with the ufc, but hey, at least cro cop came back. cro cop got my respect back now. as for fedor, who is left for him to fight that is not in the ufc??? alistair overeem? that ishii judo gold medalist who is has a 0-0 record? BJJ world champion roger gracie has already signed with the ufc. ufc picked up some of affliction HWs… not to mention already having lesnar, cain, couture, velasquez, mir, nog, crocop, etc.
July 31, 2009 at 5:17 pm
what a bunch of Dana and UFC dick sucking idiots you lot are.
Business is fucking Business!
Fedor has a contract with M-1….. he'd be an idiot to say something to bring that to Jeopardy.
anyone else remember when Randy wanted to fight Fedor and tried to leave the UFC?
how long was it till we saw him fight again?!
"we offered him everything but what he wanted"
"we did everything"
errrrr what? Dana stop…. just stop, you keep contradicting yourself!
want to call Fedor a pussy? Fine wait till 3 fights time when his M-1 Global contract runs out.
its people like you lot who make Fedor think that the entire MMA community are pussies who sit at the computer calling guys who are WAY WAY better than you with nothing to prove.
I'll say it again. Fedor had no choice…. whatsofuckingever in the deal.
all ranting crying and moaning will do is make it less likely to ever see Fedor in UFC.
UFC HAS THE BEST HEAVYWEIGHTS! errr…. no Dana.
Randy Couture 16-9
Frank Mir 12-4
Nog (been destroyed by Fedor twice already)
Brock Lesnar 4-1
Chieck Kongo (lol no ground game)
only people right now worth it in the UFC are
maybe Lesnar if you enjoy a borefest.
outside the UFC
Barnett (Japan ftw?)
Lashley (up and coming)
Rogers (up and coming)
"only send me has beens"
is it disappointing that Fedor didn't sign? ofc course it is, i'd like to see how he does in a cage, but i mean really… he has 3 fights left. i truly believe after those he will sign for the UFC.
July 31, 2009 at 5:21 pm
oh and Tito vs Coleman…. no thanks.
Franklin vs Belfort….. no thanks! NICE REPLACEMENTS DANA!
July 31, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Mike i argree whit you a 100% people dont fcking understand ?
Only thing Dana keeps saying he wont come to us blablalbla ducking fights wel than dana go to him.
Send youre best heavyweight to M-1 make big co event.Both
UFC and M-1 wil make hella money but dana dusent want that he wants the money al for him self and people in he busniss know that.
And if the UFC best guy losses hahaha bigest joke uf the year and thats what dana is afraid uf.
July 31, 2009 at 11:51 pm
I don't know how many threads we can have going on about this same thing. It's time to move on. I never thought UFC would sign him, and I'm sure many of you didn't either. I blame the UFC more than M-1 because the UFC refuses to co-promote. When co-promoting is how we got some of the biggest fights we ever did out of boxing. It took how many years to get Lewis/Tyson? Never would have happened without co-promotion. That's just an example. There are several. UFC will never get Fedor unless they stop tripping over their own dick. Could Fedor have signed without the co-promotion? Perhaps. Although it has been said that he's a co-owner of M-1, and also that the Russian mafia is involved in M-1 and some other possibly shady things. I doubt very much if it has to do with him being this big pussy that people are now screaming.
August 1, 2009 at 12:38 am
dana is the man and fador is ducking real fighters..
August 1, 2009 at 1:15 am
THATS A CRAZY F*CKIN PICTURE OF CROCOP. HE LOOKS LIKE "HE-MAN" IS THAT PIC OR SOMETHING…
August 1, 2009 at 1:23 am
Dana is turning into Don king my way my way my way my company is the best if youre not in it yu suck yourenot he best blablabla.
I have the best no dana yu dont have the best youre selfisch i he dusent want to come to yu go him to destroy him CO PROMOTE if yu dont wan that dana shut the F-up where hearing he same story for to long now over and over and over.
August 1, 2009 at 2:20 am
donio…that was the biggest pile of jibberish i have seen in a long time. do us a favor and just shut your pie hole
August 1, 2009 at 3:07 am
Fedor is a fucking bitch. I dont like him anymore.
August 1, 2009 at 3:33 am
Donio, Dana DID go to him…Offerred him EVERYTHING outside of allowing M-1 to piggyback on the brand and success that THEY HAVE BUILT!! Even offerring them the opportunity to pimp all the M-1 gear they wanted. Why would they suck him off so hard as to offer him anything more?! They dooooon't neeeeeeed hiiiiiim. Conversation done. This is starting to look and feel like some Brett Favre bull$hit from the NFL. No ONE MAN is bigger than the sport itself. If he doesn't want to fight UFC fighters….fine(pussy). They will continue generating millions and millions of $$$$ PER WEEK! Afraidor can go fight brett rogers or overeem a couple dozen times….and Mike…..outside of any comments on Fedor…..you have some valid takes…..try doing that again.
August 1, 2009 at 3:58 am
I don't blame Fedor yet. He just got one of his hardest fights cancelled because Barnett is a cheating shit talker. A co-promotion is bullshit but I think M1 can ask for a portion of the event. Not 50-50. Hell no. But I think the UFC and M1 can come to terms on a good amount. But what am I saying thats not going to happen. We have to wait three more fights.
AFRAIDOR MILLIONERKO dana wants everything to go his way and yu know human nature nobody like to b played and told what to do .
It isent fedor ducking fighters he has a contract and is a patner in M-1 why leave youre own company to go fight for a nother .
Dana keeps bashing fedor while he knows how the contrac thingy works and end uf the day it isent fedor how talks but his manager why dusent dana go bash on him casue dana knows what whil happen.
Is it so hard to co-op for one fight dana is scared because if his fighter lost he's gone have to eat al the shit he's bin talking BIG Time.
But if fedor is in the ufc and he beats the best ufc HW dana is gone cloat en talk big yeah we have the best fedor yeah yeah gone start licking fedors ass blablabla.
But in the end uf the day the just is corperations that wanne make big money of the fighters and cloat how big and great they are or wanne b.
And if the ufc dusent need fedor why in heavens name to keep running after his ass like whipet littel bitches :S
August 1, 2009 at 4:46 am
tonight is a sad night my friends..we all should have been watching affliciont 3 and see some great fights and see if affliction was for real..but insteady we have no badass ppv tv show to watch tonight…fuck
FEDOR Can Eat A Big Fat Dick!
DANA WHITE Can Eat A Big Fat Dick!
August 1, 2009 at 4:47 am
August 1, 2009 at 5:24 am
ohhhhh and ESPN isn't free in the UK!
its £30 ($50) + £10 a month for ESPN (so its cheaper than PPVs but we get the crap showtimes AKA 5am in the morning or so)
August 1, 2009 at 5:31 am
ohhh and does anyone else notice that Dana dares not to say a bad word about Fedor as he doesn't want to jeopardise a future deal?! (3 fights left on M-1 contract!)
August 1, 2009 at 7:41 am
@donio: why leave one company to work for another??
That's a joke right? To fight the best ranked fighters and make a lot more money. I thought that much was simple.
For those of you who don't think fedor had a choice: there's always a choice. Fedor could have spent some of his own millions on finkel's contract to become a free agent. This works because fedor probably has more money to throw around than strikeforce. He can always make his money back with dana's contract.
August 1, 2009 at 9:13 am
hosan best ranked fighters ?lol and make a lot more money lol have yu seen the pay checks the fighters in te ufc get ?
And why the hell spent youre own money to buy out youre contrac to go fight for a guy's company how's bin bashing yu and talking crap.
And do yu really think fedor forgot what dana told him acouple years ago WE DONT NEED YU YU NEED US:D haha if yu dont need the guy dont follow his booty as bitch than.
August 1, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Stop nut hugging Fedor and realize that he as well as M-1 are pussies, big fat pussies. All you keep saying is its not Fedors fault he had a contract for 3 more fights with M-1…really then why in the world did M-1 try and negotiate a deal with the UFC? If his 3 fights were so outrageous to where he couldnt fight for the UFC than why did they try and make a deal and why did Dana offer him the best deal he will ever see in MMA guarenteed then and they still turned it down? Fact is there fucking pussies why in the world would you not want to face better and possibly the best competition and make a shit load of money at the same time. The only reason there Scarred Pussies….
August 1, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Donio, learn to speak clearly before you post. It's getting ridiculous trying to decipher what you're saying.
Facts are ufc DOESN'T need fedor, and fedor doesn't NEED the ufc. Fedor has just proved he doesn't care about his fans. All of fedor's real fans want him in the ufc to fight the best. If you don't think the ufc has the best fighters you must be smokin rocks. Sure there may be one or two fighters the ufc doesn't have, but for the sheer amount of good fighters the ufc could throw at fedor, no other company could match.
And why do you laugh when I said make more money with that ufc? 5 million a fight is more than any fighter in any MMA affiliation is making.
And lastly, a lot of people have asshole bosses, and I am personally a believer that Dana White is one of 'em. Would you turn down $30,000,000.00 just cuz your boss would be an ass? I don't think you would.
August 1, 2009 at 5:47 pm
"all of Fedor's real fans want him to fight in the UFC"
yes they do, but we don't cry and rant and moan like little babies when they don't get what they want.
Real fans support the decision Fedor has made and back him all the way.
you lot are just immature. its no wonder American's only play sports they can win at…. imagine them playing football then crying like hell when they lose… lol.
August 1, 2009 at 5:57 pm
again Hosan… the 30 million is bullshit… Dana is not dumb, hes a tight ass hes not going to off that much.
August 1, 2009 at 7:48 pm
The only sport americans don't play is soccer. We pretty much win at everything else.
Go ahead and support fedor while he fights no-names.
There's also nothing coming from m-1 saying that Dana White's offers were false. So who are you to say it wouldn't happen?
Fedor doesn't care about his fans or his reputation. Fedor has some of the most loyal fans, including a lot of people on this forum. Do you think he cares about your support? It wouldn't appear that way, as he isn't where his fans would like to see him. Everyone here wants to see the super fights, and fedor apparently doesn't give 2 squirts.
At first he wouldn't sign because dana wouldn't let him fight sambo. Everyone understood that, those are his roots and Dana was being the usual prick that he is.
This time there's no excuse. Why remain loyal to a company that would rather you fight bums than make the career move of your lifetime?
August 1, 2009 at 9:12 pm
i would like fedor t fight in the ufc but im not mad crazy about it, i would also like to see fedor fight lashley wich is still possible now,
and i dont know what ur on about mike about franklin v belfort because im looking well forward to that one.
and ufc 101 is free in the uk on espn only that event tho.
August 2, 2009 at 12:42 am
"dick sucking idiots?" This isn't sherdog mike.
Stop being such an asshole troll.
August 2, 2009 at 1:36 am
trolling…. ok if you say so, but hating on the best fighter alive with the best record? ok… thats not trolling…. not trolling at all.
Franklin vs Belfort will be a good fight…. but its pointless. its at 195lbs and there is no weight division there… 2 Average fighters fighting in an catch weight.
Hosan: your concept of business is failing.
M-1 have Fedor in contract…. he gets NO say whatsoever…. if Fedor came out and said "yeah soon as my M-1 contract runs out… I'm going to the UFC" what do you think M-1 will do? i'll tell you what they won't be doing…. RUSHING TO LOSE THEIR BEST FIGHTER! (for evdence look at Randy Couture and how the UFC fought with all there will to keep him)
M-1 didn't deny reports of that contract? yes they did….
Fedor denied that contract too….
"we didn't even get to the point of discussing how many fights"
UFC cleverly made the rumour about the contract…. 5 mil a fight is insane…. for anyone, UFC knew M-1 wouldn't budge… so they went about it cleverly, they made a rumour that made it look like they had done everything in there power to get Fedor… when it fell flat UFC saved face.
August 2, 2009 at 2:40 am
Well said mike.
August 2, 2009 at 2:48 am
you guys serious? Machida can take out Fedor, just think about it
August 2, 2009 at 3:14 am
I agree joe. Machida could give fedor a run for his money. Fedor would have a hard time matching his quickness. Most every heavy out there is going to be overmatched by fedor's speed. His technique makes him a great fighter but his speed is what makes him the very best. Smaller fighters could eliminate that advantage and probably fare better than the larger heavys. father time will take its toll on his speed making him even more vulnerable as time wears on. But in all reality the Fedor of today would beat machida 9 times out of ten. Maybe we will see in a couple years if Fedor fights for or with the UFC.
August 2, 2009 at 3:45 am
I dont think fedor can take out Machida on hi feet. But i do give the grappling advantage to Fedor because he is agrresive everywhere the fight goes. Machida doesnt have a world class groung game but he does have awesome take down defense and technique. But i honsetly think this fight would be 50/50
August 2, 2009 at 4:41 am
Provide the link to where M-1 denies the contract offer and I might rethink my position on the situation, depending on how credible it sounds.
About Machida Vs Fedor: That'd be a pretty sick fight. Both fighters have great technique wherever they go. Ground game goes to fedor, and fedor has a lot more power, but Machida is quicker and probably a bit more accurate. I'd love to see that fight.
August 2, 2009 at 5:18 am
is just one of the links.
but anyways Fedor to take that fight, though i'd love to see it.
August 2, 2009 at 5:20 am
August 2, 2009 at 5:31 am
I'm sure both sides are holding back details. The UFC has a history of trying to manipulate the market and undermine other promotions. Before we all jump to the conclusion that M-1 wanted so much more than we all thought was reasonable we should remember that Dana blocked Randy from completing his contract to prevent a Fedor fight. He ran a free event on the same day of an affliction ppv. Some have said he "retired" Chuck Liddell with one fight on his contract to prevent him from testing the free market and avoid a very costly contract extension. We all know that M-1 is shaded by alledged russian mob ties and other things but let's also remember the UFC is a big corporation run by casino moguls who also have shaded associations. There is so much money at stake I believe it is only a matter of time before the UFC co promotes. Maybe not with Fedor but in ten years the sport is going to be too big for the UFC to maintain a monopoly.
August 2, 2009 at 7:32 am
mike r u sure belfort and franklin r fighting at catch weight cos dana said they wanted to fight at hw but its gonna be at 205,
that was on the phone confrence with him and tito check it out.
personaly i want to see belfort fight at 185.
plus ur from the uk do u know how much cage side seats r gonna be for the manchester event its gonna be my first live event and i want some good seats.
August 2, 2009 at 9:46 am
After reading these posts, I just realized that I would have been a fan of Fedor except I don’t want to be associated with his hardcore fans. And I know you’ll say, “WELL we don’t want to be associated with you either!” but you’ll take as many hardcore Fedor fans as you can get.
Anyway, a lot of people seem to overlook the fact that Fedor was willing to fight any replacement after Barnett wasn’t able to compete. He was willing to fight HW like Werdum and Rogers in under a week notice, so gotta give him props for that. But there’s still one question that no fan has been able to answer and that is, “When will Fedor start fighting the CURRENT best contenders?
Don’t even tell me Barnett is the #2 HW. His lackluster performance against a gassed Yvel with no ground game was unimpressive. You can’t sit there and tell me that Lesnar isn’t past Barnett in the rankings. The only reason why Barnett jumped to the #2 spot was by waiting and watching Randy and AA lose. On top of that, his second test was positive for steroids so who knows how long he’s been cheating since he has a track record.
I don’t doubt that Fedor is the #1 HW and #2 pound for pound. I just don’t see him ahead of Anderson Silva. I’m not a big Anderson fan but I respect the fact that he took out the UFC MW champ, then the Pride MW champ, defended the title 6 times AND has been challenging himself at a higher weight division.
Fedor’s legacy IS in tact because of the legends he already beat but I speak for a lot of people when I say, that I am hesitant to give him the credit (credit meaning best fighter in the world) that he truly deserves until he consistently tests himself against better competition especially when he’s in his prime. Most Fedor fans will be happy if he fights average opponents until he retires but don’t hate the people who want him to fight the best, after all, these people WANT to believe in him.
You make a good point on his contract with M-1 global, and that will probably a sufficient argument for the next 3 fights. So we’ll just wait and see if he renews his contract with M-1 or fight in the UFC.
For all of those who talk down on the UFC the way you do, I hope you don’t watch UFC events because you are just contradicting your views. Oh, and don’t come up with “I watch UFC just to see the day it folds, or I watch it to see how bad it sucks.” argument.
August 2, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Fuck fedor's manager. Dana and the fertitas built up the ufc and he comes out of the blue and wants to become a 50% partner?? And he is using Fedor as a tool to get in. M1 global only has one great fighter Fedor of course otherwise their crap.
August 2, 2009 at 4:48 pm
I'm sorry but if it wasn't for Zuffa buying out Pride, the UFC would be dead.
no he doesn't want to be in if for 50% co-promote doesn't mean that…. at all.
August 2, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Mike you talk about smart business but say that the UFC should just Co-Promote……. in what world would that be smart business. You do not go into business to help competition. Yes the UFC bought out pride (a smart business move) and the fact of the matter is they are not dead, they are the biggest and most stable base of MMA in the world.
In fact were it not for the business savvy of Zuffa our fine sport would be on life support, if you don't believe that your either blinded by DW hatred or just lying to yourself. All these other companies better start making T-shirts because that's the only money option they will have in a few years time.
August 2, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Visited both sites and it really sounds like a lot is being kept from the public by both parties, so it's not like we all know the facts here. Both parties need to find whatever middle-ground they can be on and work on a better resolution than what we've been hearing thus far. I don't see this happening while fedor is in contract. Finkel already said there is no way that fedor will fight for the ufc w/o co-promotion.
Co-promotion may not mean 50/50 split, but it means a whole lot more money than the ufc is gonna be willing to part with. A co-promotion would mean that The UFC( the largest Mma affiliation and now household name) would combine it's marketing with m-1 global(a relatively unknown company with one asset). There would really be no "Co" to it. It'd be free advertising for m-1 at every ufc event. You realize how much that's actually worth? Dana white will never have "Zuffa and M-1 Global Present UFC:110". So I think we will wait. Maybe a year or 2 and then dealings directly w/fedor can begin. Right now though I can't see either party bending.
August 3, 2009 at 12:40 am
An Exert From Yahoo Sports MMA:
Emelianenko remains highly popular in Japan, where they don’t test for steroids and don’t honor U.S. suspensions. Barnett, who has been caught cheating more than once, could be licensed there and conceivably could fight Emelianenko.
But there are precious few quality opponents for him outside of the UFC. And none of the fights would captivate the world’s interest the way UFC 100 did on July 11.
Emelianenko is largely unknown in the U.S. despite his 30-1 record and long winning streak. The three pay-per-view shows he headlined in this country – PRIDE 32 in 2006, Affliction 1 in 2008 and Affliction 2 in January – sold a combined total of fewer than 300,000 units.
UFC 100 alone sold well over 1.5 million.
Finkelchtein clearly botched the negotiations, but he’s not to blame.
If Emelianenko really wanted to be in the UFC and fight the best competition in the world, he would have made certain Finkelchtein got it done.
If you want to blame someone in this fiasco, blame Emelianenko.
It’s 100 percent his fault.
August 3, 2009 at 3:07 am
It's funny that people can listen to Dana "The Angry Aerobics Instrcutor" White and actually believe him. If my job was to sell anything to any of you guys, I would be rich. After all of the things that White has said about Fedor, he's probably taking pleasure in pissing him off too. I guarentee you, Dana WHite's ego is to blame and assure you that Fedor isn't afraid of the UFC's heavyweight division. I'm not even sure that I would be afraid of it at this point.
August 3, 2009 at 3:49 am
Facts are Facts, he blew off the UFC and Millions for what to fight in Strikeforce and face fucking nobodies again…yeah he has pussy alright. Fedor is a pussy and has lost all credibility in my opinion.
If Fedor wanted to fight top level talent he would of made a deal with the UFC…end of story.
August 3, 2009 at 1:31 pm
I believe Tim on this one. What Fedor wants he gets. He didn't want none of the UFC.
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