Frank Mir looking to speed to counter Lesnar’s size and strength. “Honestly, I think big guys are easier to fight. They don’t move as fast, they get tired quickly and they’re not as technical”
June 30, 2009 at 3:26 am
I get tired of Mir's cockiness when he can't take full credit for either of his 2 recent wins. Although realistically he can't be honest about it. No one wants to read "Thank god he made a rookie mistake cause he was beating my ass" I'm more looking forward to Nog avenging that BS loss to Mir after Lesnar is done him
June 30, 2009 at 3:42 am
How can you say that his last 2 wins are BS? Most fights end with one fighter making a mistake and the other fighter capitalizing in it. It was no different with Frank Mir and Brock Lesnar. I think this is going to be a very good fight. And as far as the Nog fight goes. Heath Herring was dominating Nog the same way Mir did except Herring didn't have the killer instict that Mir had to finish him!
June 30, 2009 at 3:53 am
Mir needed a controversial (I say BS) standup and a rookie mistake to beat Lesnar.He also needed Nog to be a shell of his normal self to have a chance with him.
A win is a win, but those wins were not what I'd call "impressive".
June 30, 2009 at 4:11 am
Nog also had staph infection when Frank fought him.
Lesnar needs to shut him up.
June 30, 2009 at 5:50 am
What is Mir talkin about? If he thinks Brock is slow and gets tired he is gonna get a rude awakening. Mir has had condioning problems in the past and looked out of shape. He couldnt handle Vera or Peda pano and those guys were smaller than him. Brock made a huge mistake and took him down. Mir will break this time and Brock will keep the belt
June 30, 2009 at 6:05 am
hmmm when was herring dominating nog? he landed one kick that hurt nog and than nog out boxed him the rest of the fight and won.go rewatch it.
June 30, 2009 at 6:16 am
Mir is acting about a bullshit
June 30, 2009 at 6:26 am
Here is the bottom line: BROCK IS GONNA WHOOP FRANK MIR"S ASS. Frank barely finished Dan Christensen. and please dont compare him to fedor. Mir was good at beating guys back in the days when nobody was well rounded and did not no Jiu jit su. If Ian freeman could knock him silly i think Brock is gonna decapitate him
June 30, 2009 at 6:27 am
Lesnar is much quicker than slow-poke mir.
Mir is more experienced.
I can't wait for the fight.
June 30, 2009 at 7:02 am
I think, if Mir's stand up game has really improved as everyone is saying, he has a chance. If it goes to the ground, I highly doubt Mir will get lucky again… but I definitely don't see Mir taking Brock down lol. Mir is tough too guys, he may be slow but he is tough, I can't discredit him there.
June 30, 2009 at 7:47 am
I agree with Anthony. Brock is very fast for a heavyweight and has good cardio. If Mir thinks this will be easy, he is mistaken. I still think the fight can go either way because each is better than the other in different areas. I agree though, I don't think Lesnar will be as easy to sub. because he will be much more defensive on the ground, if he even goes for the ground.
June 30, 2009 at 8:45 am
For the record, Mir didnt beat lesnar the so called ref did. This was the first time in UFC history, at least as far as i can ever remember, was a fight stopped and a point deducted from a fighter with no warning on the rule infraction. I have watched fights where the fighter repeatedly punches to the back of the head, and the ref. continues to warn over and over, i have seen fights where fighters kick the fighters in the balls, and doesnt get a point taken away.. if the Ref had not stopped the fight Mir would not have got time to recover and the Brock would have pounded him out due to tko.
June 30, 2009 at 9:17 am
I haven't seen the fight in a while so I don't remember if the ref did give Lesnar a warning or not. But if thats true then you're right about that Jay. Lesnar might have beat Mir to a pulp if the ref didn't stop action.
The only truth to that quote in the posting is that Lesnar is not as technical. But if Mir thinks he's not going to be fast and have endurance then he's wrong.
June 30, 2009 at 10:59 am
Middleweight Rob Kimmons signs new four-fight deal with the UFC..
Thats sucks he sucks…the UFC needs better UFC middle weights and Rob Kimmons isnt anything specail
June 30, 2009 at 11:04 am
tom you should have your own news forum where you can hijack your own threads haha
June 30, 2009 at 12:16 pm
what the hell is mir talking about? lesnar is so much more quicker than mir in pretty much everything minus subs but then u have his strength which overpowers quickness mir is in for a rude awakening. i think he trying to sike himself up by playing these mind games on himself. lesnar wins via tko 2nd round.
June 30, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Oh and seriously Mir says he is stronger and faster than Brock and fighting big guys is easy compared to faster and quicker lighwieghts…well maybe true except when your opponent is Brock Lesnar…Mir is either an idiot or like i said previously he is just siking himself up…he says his legs are stronger than Brocks and could out squat and dead lift Lesnar? Hmmm if i remember brock squats over 900 poounds and deadlifts something around 500..i dont believe Mir is even close to that…i guess Mir doesnt pay attention to Lesnars training..the man is a beast and IS KNOWN FOR HIS FUCKING CARDIO so i really dont understand his comment on being able to out cardio Brock because he has more fat on his and Mir has more muscle on him that Broack WTF? Brock is like 280lbs and probably about 265 of those is pure muscle where Mir wieghs 255 and probably about 220 is muscle…Mir is one cocky SOB and is in for a rude awakening..also what is Mir doing comparing Brock to Machida and Evans and Griffin saying he could beat those guys as those guys would out cardio him…what the hell does that have to do with him fighting brock…oh thats right he is training with Griffing to work on his speed and cardio..thinking brock is a fat tub of lard and is going to gas out…seriously i cant wait to watch Lesnar literallly Kill this guy and to walk right through ala there first fight minus the submission from Mir….Mir cant be this stupid…then again obviously.
June 30, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Sounds like we all pretty much agree that Mir is one stupid retarded,cocky asshole…
June 30, 2009 at 12:55 pm
The dumbest referee is Eves Lavine. That guys should be fired. I hope he's not the ref for the main event or else we would probably need a Brock vs. Mir 3
i just hate the way he sounds
June 30, 2009 at 1:02 pm
i want them to play this before the fight and then get his shit rocked…..and also dude brock would toss forrest around like a rag doll…..it would be hilarious…. i mean seriously he's like a silverback gorrilla
June 30, 2009 at 2:37 pm
derek totally agree. He is like the incredible hulk no technique no skill, no strategy. Just freakishly strong and rentless. Try submitting a Gorilla or using technique on him and see what happens
June 30, 2009 at 3:15 pm
you get hammer fists……lol
June 30, 2009 at 5:00 pm
i think movement is going to be key here. Whoever has the better evasive skills will likely come out on top. I would compare lesnar to a bull before I compare him to a gorilla though. He likes to charge in and use his girth and momentum to drive opponents to the ground. I'm not sure if mir is gonna be able to deal with something like that. Lesnar is the epitome of one punch knockout power, and if mir gets cocked with one good shot it could mean the end. You don't have to be glass to crumble after one of those shots.
July 1, 2009 at 6:11 pm
im surprised nobdy has commented about the #2 comment that said "Heath Herring was dominating Nog the same way Mir did except Herring didn’t have the killer instict that Mir had to finish him!"
watre u talking about? nog was dominating herring and got caught by a high kick that almost stopped him but he still won a decision. that high kick was all herring did in that fight. theres a reason nog has beaten herring 3 times.
mir is a freakin retard if he thinks he could match any of the scores lesnar got in speed tests for the NFL. lesnar is not only way stronger but faster too. lesnar prolly has better cardio aswell the way he trains. mir is gunna get raped its gunna be funny.
July 2, 2009 at 2:05 am
I like mir, I hope he does well but did he just say he could squat more than brock. come on now frank lets not go overboard here
July 2, 2009 at 2:08 am
dane, dane, dane………..Rape is never funny. ………well, maybe just this once…….
July 2, 2009 at 7:43 am
Lesnar luchboxes will KO Mir in this fight… lol
July 2, 2009 at 7:56 am
Brock is definately got some heavy hands. Brock is not gonna take Mir down this time and fight in his guard because mir will captilize real quick and look for triangles and armbars, to kimuras. The only way Mir can win this is by takink Brock down and submitting him.
July 2, 2009 at 8:07 am
Barring Herb Dean or Yves Levine interfering, Mir is gonna eat some canned hams then curl up and tappa-tappa-tappa while the Albino Ape hammers him like a ra-tard with a new toy
July 2, 2009 at 10:44 am
anyone else have a boner already waiting for this
July 2, 2009 at 11:41 am
whatever mw55…Mir has always been a wolf pack of one, looking for his next victim
July 10, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Most of you people seem as though you either picked up MMA last wee or more recent. Lesnar is a fucking oversized bully who has zero technicality and I would bet anything that Mir beats him again. That's what Mixed Martial Arts is, if Lesnar doesnt want to get in a knee bar then go fight in the streets for money kimbo slice style. Mir is the only heavyweight with strength enough to easily handle Lesnar and he is hands down the best heavyweight submission artist of all times. They need to make a Super heavyweight class and then we will see if Lesnars ass can beat people his own size, or they can just line him up to get his ass beat over and over again by Mir, Lidell on Tito style. You people know absolutely nothing about MMA, Mirs conditioning best of all times, look at his fucking picture during weigh in, http://sherdog.com/pictures/gallery/event/18471/8…
July 10, 2009 at 11:27 pm
And to restate the facts of ufc 81 he hit mir in the face how many times and still couldnt knock him out, you uninformed people are about to be sadly be mistaken
July 11, 2009 at 12:03 am
WOW Mir is ripped he has never looked that good before and your right REALDUDE .. all of a sudden they all think Brock knows it all hammer fists bah !!
July 11, 2009 at 12:53 am
mw55 couldn't of said it better …………lol
July 11, 2009 at 2:51 am
Wow Mir is getting a lot of hate. Looks like we got some new posters that are faggy little WWE fans
In all seriousness both of these guys look like they have trained for the fight of their lives. Brocks stand up is sloppy at best and unless Mir gets nervous like he did in the first fight I dont see him getting outstruck the way you guys do. Lesnar has really no combos, he cant kick and his knees are slow as heck. He is gonna retain the belt by ground and pound if he does win. I think Mir is much faster than him. Its not even close. Lesnar is fast for his size but he isnt the fastest HW on the planet lol.
July 11, 2009 at 2:54 am
Tim you called Mir one cocky SOB. What do you think that makes Lesnar??? I just want to see a 5 round war that way there needs to be a third fight. The ufc needs another great trilogy.
July 11, 2009 at 4:07 am
lesnar may be cocky but he has respect for others and doesnt talk or need to talk trash and say inconceivable and irrational comments unlike mir has to, lesnar only speaks when he needs to clarify trash talking…anyways back some comment about how now one here knows mma because we all predict lesnar to win..now you obviosly do not know mma or your lack of knowledge of lesnaes abilities make you fucking stupid..see i train mma i coach wrestling and spare and grapple with alot of fighters in lower stages and i can sy i know mma..mir is good and the best sub heavyweight out there, but he physically can not match the natural abilities of lesnar..sure mir looked in pretty good shape @ 245 but lesnar is alot bigger @265..and at fight time will bw @275 plus…mir cant match lesnar strenght, speed or overall athleticism mir needs to win it in round one to have chance..thats why i say lesnar via tko rd.2
by the way i cant wait to see lesnar dominate mir again but this time he comes out the winner…i have to say though mir looks physically in shape so props to him but not nearly close to lesnar division.
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