UFC 116 Lesnar vs Carwin Results LIVE

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UFC 116 “Lesnar vs Carwin” – July 3rd from the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. Brock Lesnar returns to the cage to face undefeated Shane Carwin, after a year long struggle with a life altering illness kept him sidelined. Along with matching well in size with Lesanr, Carwin bring with him a undefeated record, wrestling skills and punching power.

Cagetoday.com will have live coverage starting at 7pm EST on Saturday night.

MAIN CARD

  • Brock Lesnar vs. Shane Carwin
    Result: Brock Lesnar defeats Shane Carwin via submission (arm triangle choke) at 2:19 of R2.
  • Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Chris Leben
    Result: Chris Leben defeats Yoshihiro Akiyama via submission (triangle choke) at 4:40 of R3.
  • Matt Brown vs. Chris Lytle
    Result: Chris Lytle defeats Matt Brown via submission (armbar) at 2:02 of R2.
  • Stephan Bonnar vs. Krzysztof Soszynski
    Result: Stephan Bonnar defeats Krzysztof Soszynski via TKO (strikes) at 3:08 of R2.
  • Kurt Pellegrino vs. George Sotiropoulos
    Result: George Sotiropoulos defeats Kurt Pellegrino via unanimous decision.

PRELIMINARY CARD

  • Brendan Schaub vs. Chris Tuchscherer
    Result: Brendan Schaub defeats Chris Tuchscherer via TKO (punches) at 1:07 of R1.
  • Seth Petruzelli vs. Ricardo Romero
    Result: Ricardo Romero defeats Seth Petruzelli via submission (armbar) at 3:05 of R2.
  • Kendall Grove vs. Goran Reljic
    Result: Kendall Grove defeats Goran Reljic via split decision. (28-29, 30-27, 29-28)

  • Dave Branch vs. Gerald Harris
    Result: Gerald Harris defeats David Branch via KO (slam) at 2:35 of R3.

  • Forrest Petz vs. Daniel Roberts
    Result: Daniel Roberts defeats Forrest Petz via split decision. (28-29, 29-28, 29-28)
  • Jon Madsen vs. Karlos Vemola
    Result: Jon Madsen defeats Karlos Vemola via unanimous decision. (30-27 x3)

Event Notes

  • The event is sold out!
  • UFC expects 1 Million plus PPV buys
  • Lesnar is expected to get paid $400,000. Carwin is only promised $40,000 for his efforts.
  • 75K Bonuses announced: Lesnar – Submission of the Night, Gerald Harris – KO of the Night, Leben/Akiyama and Bonnar/Soszynski – Fight of the Night
  • Dana White: Cain Velasquez up next for a title shot against Lesnar.
  • UFC 116 Videos

70 Comments

  1. fakearms

    July 2, 2010 at 12:33 am

    My predictions:

    * Brock Lesnar vs. Shane Carwin

    Result: Shane Carwin 1st/2nd Rnd KO/TKO

    * Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Chris Leben

    Result: Yoshihiro Akiyama decision win

    * Matt Brown vs. Chris Lytle

    Result: Chris Lytle decision win

    * Stephan Bonnar vs. Krzysztof Soszynski

    Result: Krzysztof Soszynski split decision win

    * Kurt Pellegrino vs. George Sotiropoulos

    Result: George Sotiropoulos 2nd Rnd Submission

  2. jay

    July 2, 2010 at 12:47 am

    brock is much bigger than carwin look at the pics on ufc.com at the press conference

  3. Fabio

    July 2, 2010 at 12:58 am

    brock-sexy-lytle-kryzystof-sotiro.

  4. fakearms

    July 2, 2010 at 1:39 am

    jay just because he's bigger doesnt mean he automatically wins

  5. P4P #1 Fan

    July 2, 2010 at 1:58 am

    I can't wait for Saturday. This is a great card.

  6. Detroit

    July 2, 2010 at 3:00 am

    Jay is the funny one

  7. jay

    July 2, 2010 at 4:21 am

    Thats not what I meant. Im trying to say that Carwin is not as big as we thought. I mean Brock is towering over him. Yes size has nothing to do over winning fights. But when you have a guy like brock with size is well rounded then that size matters

  8. Affraidor Millionerk

    July 2, 2010 at 6:14 am

    All I gotta say is look at Arriany's facial expression…..It would be great to be Brock for at least That moment….Mmmmmm….Arrrriiaannnnny…..-(sluurrrp!)-

  9. Kung Fu Panda

    July 2, 2010 at 6:51 am

    That moment yes…but you would not want to be him this Saturday when Carwin whoops his ass!

  10. Fuck Yo Couch!

    July 2, 2010 at 7:50 am

    Affraidor wants to be STEVEO and make believe he's Arianny and slup Brock's Lesnar?????

  11. STEVEO

    July 2, 2010 at 8:06 am

    ahhhh you didn't even have to swear and you used big boy words.

  12. AFRAIDOR MILLIONERKO

    July 2, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    Yeah, but he still managed to displace/transfer his latent homo erotic infatuation into a situation that had nothing to do with him…me thinks he doth protest too much…Fyc…I hear your mommy calling…now run along and let grown folks do their grown folks thing. Damn, I can't wait till school is back in!

  13. Ross

    July 3, 2010 at 6:19 am

    My predictions:

    * Brock Lesnar vs. Shane Carwin

    Result: Shane Carwin 1st BRUTAL KO (ko of the night)

    * Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Chris Leben

    Result: Yoshihiro Akiyama TKO 2nd

    * Matt Brown vs. Chris Lytle

    Result: Matt Brown Decision (fight of the night)

    * Stephan Bonnar vs. Krzysztof Soszynski

    Result: Stephan Bonner decision win

    * Kurt Pellegrino vs. George Sotiropoulos

    Result: George Sotiropoulos 1nd Rnd Sub (sub of the night) think Triangle

  14. T.R.

    July 3, 2010 at 6:44 am

    1. carwin by ko (even tho I'm a lesnar fan)

    2. Sexyama by decision (lebens too hard to finish unless your the spider)

    3. brown by tko in 3rd

    4. Soszynski by bloody decesion (possible barn burner and fight of the night)

    5. George by decision

  15. Tim

    July 3, 2010 at 7:19 am

    Have to comment on the biggest fight to date. Tonight we will all witness a NEW Brock Lesnar a revamped and much more physically dominant one but this is the first true test of his career as he will get hit, can he take a punch from Carwin and keep going. Personally i am a fan of lesnar and always will be win or lose. But even i have questions that need answering but we all have to remember he is still only 3 yrs in training MMA and has 5 fights come tonight with 4 of them coming against top notch opponents…Carwin is basically 2-0 in my eyes as he has only fought Gonzaga and Mir who are worth a shit all the other fights have been against low class talent. But Carwin is fighting a Freight Train someone who can take him down at will and keep him down there…hit if Gonzaga can take him down freely…Lesnar is going to have his way with him. Now the main factor in this fight is Lesnar truly 100% Now cause for the last 3 yrs Doctors stated that he was only fighting at 60% of his ability and athletic potential.

    Randy said it best…Lesnar is a much better fighter than he was 6 months ago and is alot stronger and faster. If he sticks to his game plan Lesnar Wins hands down.

    One thing is for sure…6months ago Lesnar was on his death bed and in his first fight back he is fighting Carwin a very real and big test. Just keep this in mind either way and especially if Lesnar Wins impressivly as this would mean and hopefully convince people that Lesnar is the REAL DEAL in MMA.

    Lesnar Tko round 1 or 2

    Leban with the upset KO rnd 2

    brown your guess

    Bonner via Decision

  16. Mac

    July 3, 2010 at 8:09 am

    By sheer power i.e. Weight, Speed, Strength, no fighter in all MMA can match Lesnar, he has the edge tonight. Lesnar by decision.

  17. Timmie

    July 3, 2010 at 8:49 am

    Carwin by Decision, he'll prove tonight that the coming future of the HW Division will be more and more huge, power hitting athletes. Cardio will be the factor that decides it between these two monsters.

  18. hellion

    July 3, 2010 at 9:33 am

    I'm unsure, but I lean toward Lesnar by way of Ground n' Pound. Carwin is a better hitter but only on his feet, and I can't see this one standing too long.

  19. CagE

    July 3, 2010 at 9:35 am

    Carwin, Leben, Brown, Soszynski, Sotiropoulos, Schaub, Romero, Grove, Harris, ….

  20. Tico

    July 3, 2010 at 9:38 am

    Carwin baby! I can't wait to see Lesnar go down! No bigger shake up to the MMA World than to see the two best HW names toppled. The Chaos will bring many kinds great bouts!

    Carwin by TKO

    I wish I didn't have to work tonight.

  21. Tray

    July 3, 2010 at 9:48 am

    Lesnar by KO

    Akiyama by Decision

    Brown by TKO

  22. Ural Subby

    July 3, 2010 at 10:00 am

    Brock Lesnar by KO

    Akiyama by KO

    This is going to be a great event! Sent the kids to their Mom's.

  23. Mac

    July 3, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    Wow!

    Who could have forseen the conclusions of those bouts?

    Amazing!

  24. T.R.

    July 3, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    dang my predictions were way off. Great night of exciting fights. Bonner suprised me, Lytle impressed me, Leben excited me, and Lesnar blew my mind. Thankful the ref didn't stop it in the 1st.

  25. Tim

    July 3, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    LOL…Lesnar by Arm Triangle choke…Holy Shit didnt see that one coming. The New improved Humbled Brock Lesnar. Not to mention a hard core Rebublican.

    All the questions have been answered, Lesnar can take a punch/punches, he has great resiliency and heart of a champion and has some submission skills. Lesnar has excellent Cardio and Carwin doesnt. Just think this is his only 6 fight and 3yrs of training, the man gets better every time we see him fight.

    Damn this is one Fucking scary fighter…He took all that Carwin could throw at him and he was still ALWAYS in the fight he even managed to throw some Knees and punches before the bell sounded and almost got a take down to. Than he dominated the second round and sqeezed the life out of Carwin…he even said i was about to go unconscious so i tapped.

    All i can say is Damn, I do not believe there is a fighter who can stop this guy especially if he keeps improving every fight. Next up is Cain Velasquez…tough fighter but Lesnar should win as well.

    Overall great night of Fights…Leben impressed and Bonner won…

    I was 3-1 tonight not to bad. Cant wait for Silva vs Chonnen…

  26. jake

    July 3, 2010 at 3:38 pm

    brock lesnar vs. shane carwin

    I think ultimatly this came down to the fact that shane carwin has never faced an opponent that could take punishment the way that brock lesnar did (kinda). Even though I think that the fight could have easily been ended in the first round, lesnar was defending himself, its whether he was doing it inteligently or not that you have to look at. I think that in the fight shane carwin learned that he needed a drastic change in the conditioning portion of his training camp, and if he does that he will have an easy win over Lesnar, if he could have dominated the second round like he did the first, lesnar would have been done before the halfway point. just an afternote, I thought that the "this is for my family" thing was total bullshit. if he acts like an ass hole after one fight, he might as well act like an ass hole after every fight, the next fight for lesnar, should definatly be cain velasquez, since fedor is basically out of Dana Whites books after his quick loss to fabricio verdum. also, anyone above me who was prediting this to go to a desision clearly does not know the fighting styles of either shane carwin or lesnar, since neither of them have gone to desision, and carwins average fight lenght is 1 minute 8 seconds.

    Chris Leben vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama

    I thought that Leben would win this one since I heard rumors of the fight a long time a go. since there is no one in his weight class that can match the striking power of Anderson Silva, and I would say I was right, since it seemed like Leben was conrolling most of the fight on his feet as well as on the ground. in the end it all came down to who had the better conditioning and the answer to that question was Leben, you could tell that Akiyama was winded when at the beginning of the first round he had his hands on his knees, out of breath, while Leben was calm and collected. lebens superior strikin, ground skills, chin, and conditioning won him this fight. as for him calling out Wanderleigh? silva at the end of the fight, I think it would be a decent matchup, I cant really think of anyone in the middle weight class that I would want to see him face.

    since those are the only fights I really care about on the care I want to spend some time talking about 117

    Anderson Silva and Chael Sonnen, I dont think this matchup was chosen very well, it could just be me, but it seems like silva has been taking the easy fights latley, I would really like to see Silva take on some of the top contenders in the light heavy weight devision. I think a win from chael sonnen, although unlikley, would put silva in a position where he will have to win to stay. another escapade like the abu dhabi event, and Dana White says that silva will be "cut" and wait out his contract not competing in any fights, it would be interesting to see what will happen to his belt in that instance. Silva better step it up and bring his full effort to this next fight, like he has in the past, or face elimination in the UFC altogether, which im sure no noe wants to see.

  27. Mikey

    July 3, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    I can't believe Lesnar got submission of the night. He's already the highest paid guy in the organization and his arm triangle was not pretty. I thought Lytle should have gotten submission of the night. His BJJ was really impressive.

  28. 10inchWang

    July 3, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    Brock by "Homer Simpson" finish. He was exposed, curled up like a scared school girl once he tasted Carwin's power. Carwin defeated himself.

    Leben is the shit, fights with heart. Other fighters need to study him and stop being so boring. (Fitch, GSP, KOS).

    Lytle was ripped off, should have got sub of the night.

    All in all a great card. OK your turn Lesnar nut huggers –

  29. AFRAIDOR MILLIONERKO

    July 3, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    so you mean to say, a guy survives an onslaught like Carwin's, ends the round with a knee, then comes back and manages to choke out a guy who barely HAS a neck…and that doesn't impress you?! You, sir, are damn difficult to impress. your parents must have dreaded getting your christmas presents.

  30. jay

    July 3, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    Detroit Am i the funny one now? how about you fake arms?

  31. jake

    July 3, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    I dont know if you were talking to me or not, but Im sayint that if carwin had better conditioning, he would have dominated the second round, and ultimatly take the title, and now that he knows that, who knows how much he can grow as a fighter

  32. jay

    July 3, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    Carwin Gave him his best shots and brock took them all. Maybe JDS??

  33. jake

    July 3, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    took them all, curled up in a ball on the side of the cage, defending himself, UNinteligently, fight should have been stopped, end of story

  34. JUST THE TRUTH

    July 3, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    hate to say it but i told you so Brock Winner

  35. jake

    July 3, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    id say carwin winner sice he beat himself… so I guess hes the loser and the winner, which basically means that this fight never happend. I think im on to somthing

  36. Mikey

    July 3, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Dana said it right "holy s**t". The fight could have easily been stopped and in my opinion brock showed how green his is. He backed away and ran away when he was hurt. that's what you see in amateur mma.

    But what I also saw was a freak Brock who took everything Carwin could give and came back to win by submission. Brock didn't look anywhere near as bad as a normal human would look after taking that punishment. I have total respect for both Brock and Carwin after that fight.

  37. asseater

    July 3, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    I watched the fight about ten times now and Carwin only actually hit Lesnar clean with about a handful of shots and a couple of elbows. Brock blocked many with his arms and avoided real punishment . Also Carwins shots were really less and less each time. The second round started with Carwin showing he had nothing left throwing a slow motion punch. Beginning of the end for him.

    Carwin proved that he has only about 3 minutes of fight in him and then he has nothing. Better improve his cardio to compete in this sport. Lesnar looked fresh at the end of the first round after a beating then again in the second. He could go 5 rounds and jake yes Lesnar has gone the distance (herring). Fights have been stopped for less i agree but in those stoppages you question the referee for it being to early. Plus lesnar was defending himself trying very hard to block those shots. Sometimes turtle position is all you can do and it worked and he did throw a couple shots and kicks from the bottom. good call by referee to let it continue cus as you can see brock was fine when he got up. If carwin hit him clean brock should have bee KO'd like everyone else. Cain will be another test. Brock will only get better and more confident from this

  38. Zulu

    July 3, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    Carwin, fight thrower????? little wink to lesnar then lies down and waits for a sub?? big ppv payday for the rematch?? surely not!!!!!

  39. WHODINI

    July 3, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    Carwin gave up

  40. TartanTorpedo

    July 3, 2010 at 11:01 pm

    Glad the American Psycho pulled out the victory, win or lose he shows desire and always looks like he's been hit by a train.

    Probably one of the best UFC's ever for match-up's, each one was a good/great fight.

    Pity Brock won but it did show the guy can be hurt big time by a heavy puncher.

    Roll on 117.

  41. Ryan S

    July 3, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    I definately don't think Carwin gave up. I have seen fights stopped for the same thing Lesnar did. He was not doing anything even when Carwin stopped punching. I do commend him though for being a little more versatile. He did expose Carwins bad bjj. However, I also think it shows that Lesnar CAN be stopped. He got dropped and could have been finished.

  42. WHODINI

    July 4, 2010 at 12:27 am

    yup his cardio sucked ..

  43. Ross

    July 4, 2010 at 1:02 am

    Never been a fan of brock but mad props for his performance last night he took a beaten and managed to stay in the fight until carwin blow himself out and then took advantage.

    I must admit i did LOVE the first round seeing brock getting a pounding on was fun to watch but fair play to him and good luck Cain.

  44. david

    July 4, 2010 at 1:18 am

    ameteur move to back up when you are rocked? Ok keyboard warrior. He should have sat there and tried to dodge and weave to counter with wobbly legs right? Or maybe do a weakass takedown attempt? Better yet, lets do what gonzaga did when he got hit. Lol you should write a book, teach seminars and travel the world teachin fighters what to do when they are extremely hurt. Title the book Rocked Lesnar! What ameteurs do! Give me a break man. I'd like to se you take a hit like that and do what you do

  45. Ryan S

    July 4, 2010 at 1:35 am

    David, I think he meant turning his back and running was an amature move, but I actually don't remember Brock doing that.

  46. STEVEO

    July 4, 2010 at 1:50 am

    the fight was over when between rounds you saw carwin sitting on his stool shaking his head side to side probably wondering what the fuck do I have to do to finish his guy. Props to Chris Leben, as long as he keeps his head on straight that guy can be a challenger with his new found dedication. and I want any guy blasting brock for backing up to sit in there and get hit in the face with one of carwins cinder blocks and not get knocked out or back up, are you kidding me. Also I would like to see Sotoroupoulois (spelling) get in the ring with Kenflo and see what hes really got. Leben vs. Wand would be fun to watch as well.

  47. STEVEO

    July 4, 2010 at 1:51 am

    but i do agree that the fight could have easily been stopped, brock got lucky it wasnt mazzagatti or the lady ref they usually don't let too many shots slide without stepping in.

  48. ReBoot

    July 4, 2010 at 2:03 am

    STEVEO: I agree. While Brock was getting pummeled I was thinking, "He's lucky to have Josh in there and not, mazz or yamasaki" Hell I think even Herb dean would have stopped that fight after Brock took the tenth shot before he did anything.

  49. Mac

    July 4, 2010 at 2:30 am

    Leben vs. Wandy?

    Great call!

  50. AFRAIDOR MILLIONERKO

    July 4, 2010 at 3:47 am

    I cant believe no one has said this yet…but after all that talk of Leben being a lesser fighter, and being beneath him then losing to him…will Anyone but Justin Timberlake be "bringing sexy back "?! hahahaha…oh, I crack me up!…sorry…couldn't help myself.

  51. ReBoot

    July 4, 2010 at 4:25 am

    Leben's heart can never be questioned.

    Like joe rogan said, the guy is a zombie and just keeps moving forward. Feel bad for Akiyama though. Put on a hell of a fight but was still subbed by a guy who just fought 2 weeks ago and was considered a lesser fighter

  52. Trevor

    July 4, 2010 at 5:52 am

    Was Leben Juicing again? Just asking since he's ben caught cheating in the past.

  53. jbug

    July 4, 2010 at 6:18 am

    i think lesnar will eat cain velazquez for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. i think jds would be a bigger challenge for lesnar

  54. ReBoot

    July 4, 2010 at 7:02 am

    trevor: they're ALL juicing. some of them dont cycle properly and get caught

  55. Ural Subby

    July 4, 2010 at 8:46 am

    No, they're not…some athletes take steroids if they believe the added strength and speed will help, but most MMA fighters rely on skill, martial arts develop principles that disgrace the very ideal of cheating.

  56. Zyklon

    July 4, 2010 at 9:20 am

    sorry to break it to you Ural. But steroids are much more common then you think. in ALL sports and very much so in MMA.

  57. ReBoot

    July 4, 2010 at 9:25 am

    Tim Sylvia, Sean Sherk, Stephan Bonner, Phil Baroni, Hermes Franca, Chris Leben, Josh Barnett, Royce Gracie —- All Busted for roids.

    Kevin Randleman – submitted some kind of animal piss if I remember correctly.

    These are just a few of the ones that have been caught.

    Ural Subby: They aren't using them for performance enhancement. They're using them to heal themselves faster after fights so they can get back to training quicker in a healthier state. The sooner they can train the sooner they can pay more bills

  58. Ural Subby

    July 4, 2010 at 10:14 am

    I've never heard of these Steroids that heal people faster. Any articles you could recommend there Zyklon/Reboot?

    They sound awesome.

  59. Tim

    July 4, 2010 at 11:29 am

    Wow i cant believe some of the poor unintelligent comments here. This used be a great place to debate and accept the truth.

    Not one person in this world is unbeatable, Lesnar just fucking skyrocketed himself into MMA history for that performance. Look at it this way the man was 6 months removed from being on a hospital bed with a very serious illness. In his first fight back he fights Carwin a devastating KO artist with power to give him problems. Lesnar got tested and CAN take a punch came back from adversity stood up through a HARD knee that hurt Carwin and almost had a take down at the end of the round 1, We can all argue wether or not it should of been stopped but this is MMA and as long as the fighter is intelligently defending himself wether it be by curling up and blocking shots that is still a method of defense and It was awesome officiating to not end the fight when it was clear as day Lesnar was defending himself hell he even through a kick from the bottom. Then round two Lesnar just dominated and slapped on a very nice Arm Triangle Choke that suffocated Carwin and forced him to tap so much that Carwins Wind pipe was bruised and he had problems getting oxygen and he was hyperventilating he went to the hospital immediatly after the fight to get check on which thank god he is okay.

    Now for you that say Lesnar got beat on well yes he did and so do ALL MMA fighters especially those who truly love to fight as they have heart. Look at Leben the man looks 20 times worse than Lesnar and he wont via Submission.

    Lesnar is fucking scary…

    Has only 3yrs of MMA training underneath him

    Has only 6 fights and is UFC champ

    Has made 2 Title Defenses and won each won convincingly.

    Has shown Now that he can take a punch has Heart of a champion and no quit in him.

    AND the biggest one to date He has Submission skils and he knows how to utilize them effectively.

    Now obviously he has holes in his game but remember 3yrs of training that is it and look what he has accomplished. Just imagine in another 2 years of training what kind of Brock Lesnar we could be watching…think about it..lets say he gets his Stiking up to par and becomes confident in it. Lets say he devolps further Submission skills, Lets say he overall becomes much more stronger and faster and more dominant. This is what we will be witnessing when he has the time under neatch him for proper training. This is one Scarry Fighter…believe it or not…he took Carwins best shot that has previously KO others and got up and made him say i quit.

    Brock Lesnar wether you like him or not is a legitimate MMA artist and is the REAL DEAL. Now that he has proved himself and has answered all the questions that needed to be answered I am intriqued to see How Far Lesnar can go in this sport meaning how much better can he get. He will lose its just inevitable but will it be like the last time he ever lost at something.. in HS he lost some wrestling matches his first year came back and went undefeated hte follwing 3 years, goes to college and goes 33-0 transfer to Minnesota and in 1999 he was the runner up to the National Champion then he went on a 34-0 streak to end his college wrestling career and become the 2000 National Champion. The man doesnt like to lose and he has a habit of going on win streaks in bunches after he loses.

    I think Carwin had his best shot cause the next time he faces brock if he does and which wont be for at least another 3 fights which is aobut 1-2 years away he will be facing a much overall better Lesnar and that is scarry.

    Lesnar deserves Respect after what he has gone through and how he has carried himself. He is one Tough SOB.

  60. GSP is a whore

    July 4, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    Steroids don't heal Subby you retard, they're used for strength gain. Duh

  61. T.R.

    July 4, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    Tim — i miss you posting on here. And i agree with your views on Lesnar.

    If the fight would have been stopped in the 1st then all we would have today is a new champ with no gas. And that would have gotten exposed sooner or later.

    Lesnar took some big shots from a big puncher and didn't quit. Hats off to him

  62. Ryan S

    July 4, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    How does it show Brock can take a punch? He got dropped and was dominated the whole first round. Sure he didn't get put to sleep, but he completely lost his composure for that whole round. I'm not doubting that he did a good job weathering the storm and pulling out the submission, but come on, A LOT of people thought Brock couldn't be knocked out, but just like everyone else, he can be. I'll tell you what though, if he is learning submissions, yikes.

  63. WHODINI

    July 5, 2010 at 12:21 am

    he looked like Tito all curled up and Carwin didnt fight it off at all i think he was spent he looked like the old Frank Mir one round and done

  64. Flying Armbar

    July 5, 2010 at 5:13 am

    Let's not go as far as to say that Lesnar has submission skills yet. I will give him a lot of credit for the sub on Staurday but to say he has sub skills after only one sub is stretching it. I highly doubt that we will see triangles, straight armbars, or leg locks. His bread and butter will continue to be ground and pound.

  65. Ryan S

    July 5, 2010 at 7:44 am

    I did say if.

  66. Flying Armbar

    July 6, 2010 at 6:04 am

    You did…my response was actually for Tim and others.

  67. rhetro

    July 6, 2010 at 7:37 am

    carwin is a beast. he did a lot better than i thought he would. it was very clear that brock had some cage rust and carwin definately took advantage of it. he has great coaching and comes in to every fight with the perfect game plan. attack fast and keep the pace high. if he had a chance it would be in the first round. and if the fight was stopped i don't think it would've been unjustified. on the other hand if it had been the other way around and the fight did get stopped all the brock haters would have given themselves brain hemorrhages. hats off to brock for stayin in there. just when it looked like the fridge door was closed he kicked carwin off so it was a great job by the ref to see that he still had fight in him. funny thing about that submission tho is if that were any other fight or fighter he probably wouldn't have gone for that. he would've just taken the position and beat him up. but since he was in deep trouble early and considered carwin to be his first and only legitimate threat….he decided he can't be messin around with him.

    as far as brock's submission skills go, i think we are all a lil skeptical. but i would not be suprised if his bjj skills are definately beyond a legitimate level. after he lost to mir in his first fight i'm sure he went back to camp and told himself that that is never goin to happen again. so i would expect his submission deffense to rival even the best p4p in the ufc. and that arm triangle couldn't have been executed better than a black black belt. so….it's there and it's real. i think it's just a matter of if he wants to use it or not. i've said this before, brock's style is bullying. and he's goin to treat you like you're his little brother and hold you down in what ever position he wants you in, not let you escape, pound you and make you wish you never talked shit to him and never got in the cage.

  68. Alpha Dog

    July 6, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    Tim- I weas reading your post and fell asleep in the middle. Too fuckin long! Are you posting or writing a book?

  69. David

    July 6, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    Love all these posts because it's not about Fedor being the MMA God! The day Lesnar came into the UFC and said, I only want to fight the best, I don't wanna waste my time with scrubs, was the day I was a Lesnar fan. I would still love to see Lesnar vs Fedor though. Fight will never happen though.

  70. aziz

    July 15, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    You see regardless of what brock fans may say about he can take punch, he's got heart, he's this and that. The man did not win this fight because he's a good fighter nor did he win this fight or did shane lost. The latter is obvious, shane lost him the fight. No fighter in MMA history will be allowed to take more than 8 clean shots to the head without the fight being stopped. brock took 10 shots to the head and not only he was not defending but he was clearly outclast and out matched that anyone with an oz of brain would have stopped that fight. Having said that I can't give brock credit for winning a fight when your opponent was clearly not competing in the second round did not even try to prevent a take down, and when he hit the mat he just lie there to be choked out. So anyone out there that think brock is a great fighter or whatever must not know anything. If thses two guys fight 9 more times lesnar would be knocked out in the first round that I still believe. On the other hand I am glad that shane lost because he's gonna know that cardio is very, very important in any sport and should go back on the drawing board. Because u may get a ref like he got in that fight that will give the oponent every chance in the book regardless of how hurt they are. If he has even 25% of his cardio left there was no way brock was going to survive another onslaught from him. He had zero cardiovascular left and it showed when the firts round ended that he was done. Cain may not be able to beat brock because of size differencial but I can't wait for a rematch between brock and Shane. Which I still stand by my prediction that if they meet again which is inevitable, Brock will be knocked out at the 2:58 mark in the first round. Brock to me just don't have the skill as a fighter and if he does not learn how to fight he's gonna be really hurt in the ring

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